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This isn't my phrase - the origin is from Donald Rumsfeld in the US but I think this applies in the field of stroke medicine - do we fail to diagnose cryptogenic stroke because we don't look for the r
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the 'unknown unknowns' in cryptogenic stroke

posted at 1/5/2012 4:51 PM BST on bmj.com
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This isn't my phrase - the origin is from Donald Rumsfeld in the US but I think this applies in the field of stroke medicine - do we fail to diagnose cryptogenic stroke because we don't look for the right diagnoses or because we don't understand the disease?
there is a thought provoking online editorial in Heart that got me thinking about this
http://heart.bmj.com/content/early/2012/04/26/heartjnl-2012-301648.full
sadian

Re: the 'unknown unknowns' in cryptogenic stroke

posted at 1/5/2012 6:17 PM BST on bmj.com
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Yes Dr. Sadian, I do agree with you in that we often do miss cryptogenic stroke, probably we generally do not think about the possibility.
Thanks for an interesting eye opener!

Re: the 'unknown unknowns' in cryptogenic stroke

posted at 17/7/2012 6:16 PM BST on bmj.com
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before dignosing cryptogenic stroke, we should do some special investigation such as transesophagael echo, droppler study of heart and great vessels, mitochondrial disease lab testand detailed search of autoimmuno, haematological, homocysteine test.despite all sort test we miss cryptogenic stroke.

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