Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
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Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
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According to a new psychiatric evaluation mass killer Anders Breivik is sane, overturning a previous evaluation which labelled him criminally insane. His actions were inhumane and that of someone's re
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 21/4/2012 5:20 PM BST
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The example by skysteve sayong that someone who is mentaly ill cannot help being violent is both inaccurate and wrong on a plethora of levels. If Breivik is insane fine, or sane fine, who cares? Justice demands he be removed from society, and placed in prison whereby the members of society who conduct themselves as humans can lead sane and safe lives! The little girl down the street or someones elderly mother should not be terrorized by this monster just because some cornball Doctor says. "Oh He is Cured, All Better".. RUBBISH, PURE RUBBISH> Leave him in jail, Let society be safe, it is the only Sane Answer. DuaneF |
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 23/4/2012 1:01 PM BST
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I don't mean to be controversial, but could it be that this is Brievik's reality? Did he make an existentially valid choice for himself? He may believe all that he promotes and this seems to form his identity. In his actions he found reinforcement of his identity, validating who he think he is (which might be who he actually is..). The fact that this goes completely against the grain of society means that he is wrong in the eyes of society and the law, but is not necessarily mad. If we compare his actions to everyday human behaviour, yes, it seems to be out of tune with sane actions. But to him it might have been a completely rational and self-validating act. Is that madness? |
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 23/4/2012 4:06 PM BST
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Hi Duane - as previously I think Breivik is "sane" and knew exactly what he was doing and, on that basis, he will and should go to jail for life. But on the more general point of what level of responsibilty we can attribute to the actions of those who are mentally ill we will have to agree to disagree as we seem to live in different worlds. Yours seems black and white whereas mine has a strong tinge of grey. Yours seems full of certainty whereas mine is laced with doubt. I am not saying I am right and you are wrong but we do have a different world view, in this respect at least. But peace and good will to all. |
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 24/8/2012 10:13 AM BST
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News just in that Breivik has been declared sane and been given 21 years in prison. http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/stFKfuv0p30uuj41C1_S3Xg/view.m?id=15&gid=world/2012/aug/24/breivik-verdict-sane-21-years&cat=top-stories The report says he will be glad not to have been diagnosed as insane because his actions would not have been taken seriously. This may go to prove, that however uncomfortable his ideologies sit with most of us, that there are people who hold extreme views such as his and perhaps the this decision can help us move on and perhaps try and confront views like Breivik's. |
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 24/8/2012 2:00 PM BST
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For a person to grin all over his face and say that he shot and blew up dozens of people because he wanted to save his country from being overtaken by Islam is clearly insane.
Breivik is a raving megalomaniac who simply wanted publicity. He should have been given none but quickly and quietly certified insane, and removed from the scene. |
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 24/8/2012 2:49 PM BST
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I would have found hum insane, because that was exactly what he didn't want. And because it would have been an indefinite sentence But the Law doesn't work like that. 21 years just isn't enough - he'll be only 54 when he gets out, remission excepted. Plenty of time to do more evil. John |
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 24/8/2012 3:15 PM BST
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In Response to Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?: I would have found hum insane, because that was exactly what he didn't want. And because it would have been an indefinite sentence But the Law doesn't work like that. 21 years just isn't enough - he'll be only 54 when he gets out, remission excepted. Plenty of time to do more evil. John Posted by John D John: Agree, agree and agree. He got off light. He should have been locked away for life. Such a shame. |
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 24/8/2012 3:53 PM BST
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Also agree JohnD - I simply do not understand why it's not 21 years per victim - after all each one is an individual crime and count of murder. and on that basis he should be in jail for the best part of 200 years. |
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Re: Is Anders Behring Breivik sane?
posted at 24/8/2012 6:31 PM BST
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I hear that 21 is the Norwegian maximum sentence; compare the UK where 15-40 years may be the 'tariff' set by the judge. Apparently, if he is still deemed "a danger to the public" in twenty years time, he will be kept in gaol. Good. JOhn |
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