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Will this work? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20047505 sadian ps doesn't it remind you of the Bill Clinton quote?
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posted at 24/10/2012 10:06 PM BST on bmj.com
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Will this work?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20047505
sadian

ps doesn't it remind you of the Bill Clinton quote?

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 1:12 AM BST on bmj.com
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 I don't know what Clinton said but what the article say you have to try it to see if is  a good idea.
 In the last month i have tried nicotine gums and patches but it didn't work  . 4 times i tried with nicotine patch but the first 2 times i stopped patches because of itching the third i get used to it but i stopped because of stupidity and the fourth because i was very nervous because of an internal joint derangement of my temporomandibular joint  which happened the next day chewing a gum ! 20 years of martial arts and no damage did happen but i get this  because of gum... i was so nervous that i started smoking again... after a lot of days the derangement still remains.
 Anyway after some days i will i give it another try ,with patches again.

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 7:13 AM BST on bmj.com
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Sadian, I want to declare my stupidity to you. From the age of about 12,  I ran, swam every day - could do an entire length of an olympic swimming pool underwater with one breath and kept it up all through my twenties. At 35 years of age I started smoking (8 years ago). I was going through a difficult time and like a fool thought smoking would ease the stress, of course it didn't. Now at 43 I still smoke but MUST give it up.  I have been around healthcare people all my adult years - family members Doctors and Nurses. I must be one of the most stupid people out there. However, I am going to stop. I don't want patches or gum. I am preparing to just stop. My father smoked for forty years and has COPD and has had multiple admissions. If that  isn't a good enough reason to stop I don't know what is.  I kind of say to myself because I didn't smoke during my teens or twenties my heart and lungs must be coping better than if |I started early - am I deluding myself? Unlike a  great majority of Lawyers I scarcely drink alcohol, not because of any strong convictions against imbibing but simply because I cannot work effectively if I had a lunch time drink or cope with a hangover.

One thing that made me laugh about Obama was when he was asked if he ever smoked pot and inhaled he said 'that was the whole point'!. I have never smoked any illicit drugs and have no desire to but his honesty sounded better than Clinton.

Smokers smell unpleasant and it easily destroys ones teeth as well as other organs within the body.  I will have given up by New Yews day - the cost is outrageous. This silly idea of putting cigs behind closed 'blinds' in supermarkets is foolish in my view. A smoker will smoke whatever gruesome photos appear on the packet and hiding them I believe makes kids more interested in getting hold of cigs.  There is a school near me and I am horrified to see kids (that look to me about 12 or 13 smoking away pretending to enjoy it.

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 10:29 AM BST on bmj.com
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ikaros,
I've a strong interest in helping people give up, because I'm a non-smoking smoker (those born again are always more boring than life-long non-smokers)  and as part of my pre-op. assessment tasks, so may I help?

Chewing gum;  you don't chew it like normal chewing gum.   Soften it in your mouth, with a light chew, then stick the gum in your cheek.  Think of an old time sailorman, 'chewing' his tobacco - he did not chew and swallow like food!   In your cheek, it leaks nicotine into your bloodstream slowly to provide a background of the drug.
If the pangs get bad or you have a crisis of circumstance, instead of lighting up give your gum a quick chew, a few bites, and it will release a blast of nicotine, just like a fag.    No need to stress your TM joints at all!

Then, gum and patches are not the only fruit.    Sprays for your nose and mouth,  and even the E-cigarette can get nicotine into you without setting fire to coffin stick.   The last, the e-fag, is of doubtful effectiveness in actually weaning you off smoking - you go on 'smoking'! - but at least you stop taking all that carcinogenic, artherosclerotic, broncospastic smoke into you!
I recommend my patients visit a pharmacist at a non-busy time, and ask them to show all the various nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) preparations they have.     In the UK, and for kirked in particular, every GP surgery has, or should have, a "stop smoking advisor", usually a practice nurse, who will provide help, including a prescription for NRT.

Then, there are oral medications that have been shown to help reduce nicotine craving and to stop smoking.  Varenecline (Champix) and  bupropion (Zyban) are available in the UK on prescription (no idea about your country, ikaros).

Lastly, giving up is a cycle.    Many smokers want to give up, decide to give up, give up, then  for all sorts of reasons start again.  That is not failure and does not mean that you are condemned to continue.  Keep it in mind, choose the least worse time (it is always a good time to stop, but maybe not the right time for you)  make your preparations and stop again. Even you don't go on stopped, one day, you will fly off that circle, like a spinning weight released from its string, and never go back!

Best wishes
John

PS I'm sure you know, kirked, that in the UK selling cigarettes to kids who are less than 18 years old is illegal.    If I saw that and could trace the seller, I'd shop them!  Some council Trading Standard offices have set up sting operations when they know that this is going on, sending an obviously young child into the suspects shop to buy, and prosecuting when they get them.

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 11:51 AM BST on bmj.com
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In Response to Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...:
Sadian, I want to declare my stupidity to you. From the age of about 12,  I ran, swam every day - could do an entire length of an olympic swimming pool underwater with one breath and kept it up all through my twenties. At 35 years of age I started smoking (8 years ago). I was going through a difficult time and like a fool thought smoking would ease the stress, of course it didn't. Now at 43 I still smoke but MUST give it up.  I have been around healthcare people all my adult years - family members Doctors and Nurses. I must be one of the most stupid people out there. However, I am going to stop. I don't want patches or gum. I am preparing to just stop. My father smoked for forty years and has COPD and has had multiple admissions. If that  isn't a good enough reason to stop I don't know what is.  I kind of say to myself because I didn;t smoke during my teens or twenties my heart and lungs must be coping better than if |I started early - am I deluding myself? Unlike a  great majority of Lawyers I scarcely drink alcohol, not because of any strong convictions against imbibing but simply because I cannot work effectively if I had a lunch time drink or cope with a hangover. One think that made me laugh about Obama was when he was asked if he ever smoked pot and inhaled he said 'that was the whole point'!. I have never smoked any illicit drugs and have no desire to but his honesty sounded better than Clinton. Smokers smell unpleasant and it easily destroys ones teeth as well as other organs within the body.  I will have given up by New Yews day - the cost is outrageous. This silly idea of putting cigs behind closed 'blinds' in supermarkets is foolish in my view. A smoker will smoke whatever gruesome photos appear on the packet and hiding them I believe makes kids more interested in getting hold of cigs.  There is a school near me and I am horrified to see kids (that look to me about 12 or 13 smoking away pretending to enjoy it.
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All power to your elbow mate! I hope you do succeed.

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 2:16 PM BST on bmj.com
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Hi Ikaros , this is the Clinton Quote
"When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale and never tried it again." –Bill Clinton
and kirked as skyesteve says hats off to you for trying. I always try to remember how addictive smoking is because if JohnD thinks he is bad you can imagine how I (a never smoking non smoker very anti smoking) come across! Anything that makes someone else give up is great from my point of view and people who sell cigarettes to kids need to feel the full force of the law.
sadian

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 2:25 PM BST on bmj.com
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Thanks skysteve & sadian - I will get rid of this horrible habit.

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 2:43 PM BST on bmj.com
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PLEASE BE KIND TO LEAVE OUR PRESIDENTS OUT OF THIS.

WE ARE RESPECTFUL OF THE PRIVACY OF YOUR ROYALTY.

THANK YOU

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 6:48 PM BST on bmj.com
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Presidents volunteer to be in the public domain and therefore are fair game. THe Royal family are stuck in the job because an ancestor of theirs happened to have it...

Re: I smoked but didn't inhale...

posted at 25/10/2012 7:16 PM BST on bmj.com
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It is an important article for those who want to quit smoking.
I am a non-smoker & do not like the smell of smokers, but it is a dangerous habit. It is surely worth having a 'divorce' with smoking.
    
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