ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST... DANGEROUS! SHOULD THIS FILM BE SHOWN TO THE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS-ACUTELY ILL?
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ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST... DANGEROUS! SHOULD THIS FILM BE SHOWN TO THE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS-ACUTELY ILL?
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What do you think? Should the film “One flew over the cuckoo’s nest” be used as a rehab tool among acutely disturbed patients at our forensic psychiatry wards? &nbs
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Re: SHOULD THE FILM "ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST" BE USED AMONG ACUTE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS
posted at 6/6/2012 12:45 PM BST
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silver QUOTE]QUOTing you Keep posting what's going on there The experiment , i.e. showing "One flew over the cuckoo's nest" to the acutely disturbed male patients in a Forensic ( secure unit in England) will still go ahead next week??!! Although myself and others stood against this "idea", it seems we are banging on the wall. DOES ANYONE HERE know how to contact the Ethical review board? This experiemnt shuold have ethical clearance prior to launching it! |
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Re: SHOULD THE FILM "ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST" BE USED AMONG ACUTE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS
posted at 6/6/2012 3:37 PM BST
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In Response to Re: SHOULD THE FILM "ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST" BE USED AMONG ACUTE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS: silver QUOTE]QUOTing you Keep posting what's going on there The experiment , i.e. showing "One flew over the cuckoo's nest" to the acutely disturbed male patients in a Forensic ( secure unit in England) will still go ahead next week??!! Although myself and others stood against this "idea", it seems we are banging on the wall. DOES ANYONE HERE know how to contact the Ethical review board? This experiemnt shuold have ethical clearance prior to launching it! Posted by drmk You better try to read the Trust Policy first regarding all art therapies. Are there any Trust Policies what should and should not be used as rehab&occuhealth in your hospital? Check and if not any, than raise your concerns why there is not any. As I said in my post yesterday I'd assume the managers have covered their back. I am sorry I only wanted to warn you. It is dangerous for your career to rock their boat. Have you spoken to other doctors in your hospital? |
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Re: SHOULD THE FILM "ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST" BE USED AMONG ACUTE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS
posted at 7/6/2012 10:23 AM BST
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lightandthunder: QUOTEIng you: Are there any Trust Policies what should and should not be used as rehab&occuhealth in your hospital? Check and if not any, than raise your concerns why there is not any. There are not any trust policy as you suggested. For the last two weeks and several other staff members have been banging on the walls, unfortunately this "experiment" is going ahead |
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Re: SHOULD THE FILM "ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST" BE USED AMONG ACUTE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS
posted at 10/6/2012 7:21 AM BST
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[QUOTE]In Check and if not any, than raise your concerns why there is not any. I am curious to hear how were the risks assessed |
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Re: ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST... DANGEROUS! SHOULD THIS FILM BE SHOWN TO THE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS-ACUTELY ILL?
posted at 10/6/2012 7:58 AM BST
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drmk, it is now pretty clear what this problem is all about. Have you come across the 'whistleblowing policy'? It is supposed to be a position from which any member of staff can safely bring the attention of senior management (not clinicians) to practices that may be dangerous. Find it and use it (if you havent already, I havent reead all the previous posts). It is to allow any person to safely 'shout' about dangerous practice. It seems to me to be the only option available at this time without expensive legal support which you should avoid unless the benefits of pursuing it outweigh the costs. |
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Re: ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST... DANGEROUS! SHOULD THIS FILM BE SHOWN TO THE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS-ACUTELY ILL?
posted at 10/6/2012 10:46 AM BST
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forgive my ignorance, but who is responsible for the care of the patients in the nhs. how come any manager tells the medical staff what to do. i would think the psychiatrists would be the ones making the decision. but i live in oz, and despite our crazy politicians, patient care still seems to be largely in the hands of the medicos .saw the film years ago. the decision is crazy |
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Re: ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST - SHOULD THIS FILM BE USED AS A "REHAB" TOOL AMONG ACUTE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS
posted at 10/6/2012 8:29 PM BST
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John D drmk, If anyone did so as some form of "treatment" then extremely poor judgement, if I may say so. The good news is - someone has already allerted the Director of the Hospital about thie experiment. Watch this space now |
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Re: ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST... DANGEROUS! SHOULD THIS FILM BE SHOWN TO THE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS-ACUTELY ILL?
posted at 12/6/2012 1:33 AM BST
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[QUOTE]forgive my ignorance, but who is responsible for the care of the patients in the nhs. how come any manager tells the medical staff what to do. i would think the psychiatrists would be the ones making the decision. but i live in oz, and despite our crazy politicians, patient care still seems to be largely in the hands of the medicos .saw the film years ago. the decision is crazy Posted by rmtracey[/QUOTE] many thanks! Yes, indeed - the decision is crazy. |
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Re: ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST... DANGEROUS! SHOULD THIS FILM BE SHOWN TO THE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS-ACUTELY ILL?
posted at 12/6/2012 1:39 AM BST
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[QUOTE]kirkd it is now pretty clear what this problem is all about. Have you come across the 'whistleblowing policy'? Would you wait to find out what the whistleblowing policy is, if you were in my position? Or if you were patient's relative and your son/brother is an inpatient in an accute forensic psychiatry ward and is due to be exposed to this film? Would you? And why always talking legal /laywers help? Why should one feel guilty to speak up, or "lost" without legal/laywers. This is a matter of patient's care. It is not a criminal offence for Godness seak! |
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Re: ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST... DANGEROUS! SHOULD THIS FILM BE SHOWN TO THE FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY PATIENTS-ACUTELY ILL?
posted at 12/6/2012 3:09 PM BST
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[QUOTE]rmtracey i live in oz, and despite our crazy politicians, patient care still seems to be largely in the hands of the medicos .saw the film years ago. the decision is crazy You are lucky then! OZ= New Zealand? |
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