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If anyone knows how doctors feel, when in exclusion/suspension, please share with us. It is horrible. I've been through it. Frankly I do not wish it to happen to anyone. It is a very dar
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 4/6/2012 10:24 PM BST
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Dr Alice, QUOTING you There is also the Doctors' Support Network and phone line: http://www.dsn.org.uk/ You can call them: Monday, Tuesday: 8pm - 11pm, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday: 8pm - 10pm, Sunday: 4pm - 10pm This is really very kind of you. MDU asked that doctors should have membership PRIOR to their suspension. Do you know if DSN will ask for the same? Thanks |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/6/2012 10:29 AM BST
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I am glad there is some progress in your case. Sadly the bank holiday period is not the best time to liaise with all the organisations, offered above, but hopefully you will get on the track after it finishes. Good luck |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/6/2012 11:03 AM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION: In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION : Hi there. This discussion is very helpful for me because I am in the beginning of my doctor's career and being someone born and bread abroad I really feel uncomfortable with the local tradition of reporting doctors for anything. These days one can report a doctor for various of reasons, including doing his job passionately and more enthusiasticly than others. My question to drsamir77 is the following. You said all doctors must become members of the mdu erc. But who told you this. Myself and others coming from outside Britain do not have such mdu's in our countries and doctors do their jobs perfectly okay. I am not saying there are not odd ones who drink and drive, or who prescribe slimming prescriptions to female patients as a private business and charge them. Greed is awful, but having been at a few workshops recently I was so surprised to met so many doctors in troubles like the sender of this theme. Please can anyone here tell us what is the best thing to do to prevent doctors from the situation that drmk is. I about to complete my F and I am not looking foreard to becoming a locum Me too coming from abroad and i never heard about this MDU and MDDUS. But as a locum, agencies always asked for this indeminity insurance. I very well know that BMA, Pulse , MDU, MDDUS subscription can be definitely claimed from taxes form HMreveneu so than why should we not join it when we get it free ? Posted by magpie |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/6/2012 11:32 AM BST
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I immagine it is really hard going on the motions of being suspended and then getting registered as a selfemployed and then getting registered at the mdu, or mdus and then claiming money back. What first? It is difficult to do all this once suspension comes on the door. The previous sender has asked something, which is my question too - if one works as a doctor via the NHS not via any agencies, so how could this doctor be relaxed and doing his job being not a member of mdu prior to the suspension. Whose responsibility is to tell foreign doctors about all this hell here? |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/6/2012 11:49 AM BST
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In Response to DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION: If anyone knows how doctors feel, when in exclusion/suspension, please share with us. It is horrible. I've been through it. Frankly I do not wish it to happen to anyone. It is a very dark place and after all - badly wounded . It is horrible - the whole time of isolation, disgrace and ridicule Perhaps time will cure Posted by drmk It is somewhat medieval in this age that doctors do this to each other..we are better at supporting patient support groups than each other; the system may need reform but the economy may do it for us as the luxury/indulgence of what has gone on in the past may no longer be afforded, a system which mainly benefited our legal colleagues.. |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/6/2012 11:50 AM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION: John:: "QUOTING you: This is a painful subject for any doctor, as the sword hangs over us all" Yes, I agree, thanks for your support Posted by drmk Should a sword hang over us in the 21st century? |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/6/2012 11:52 AM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION: Dr Alice, QUOTING you There is also the Doctors' Support Network and phone line: http://www.dsn.org.uk/ You can call them: Monday, Tuesday: 8pm - 11pm, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday: 8pm - 10pm, Sunday: 4pm - 10pm This is really very kind of you. MDU asked that doctors should have membership PRIOR to their suspension. Do you know if DSN will ask for the same? Thanks Posted by drmk Medical indemnifiers exercise their own discretion...other support groups do not seek a fee or membership... |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/6/2012 12:00 PM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION: I immagine it is really hard going on the motions of being suspended and then getting registered as a selfemployed and then getting registered at the mdu, or mdus and then claiming money back. What first? It is difficult to do all this once suspension comes on the door. The previous sender has asked something, which is my question too - if one works as a doctor via the NHS not via any agencies, so how could this doctor be relaxed and doing his job being not a member of mdu prior to the suspension. Whose responsibility is to tell foreign doctors about all this hell here? Posted by silver Dear Silver, Pleasse read my original post, never meant to say to get registered to MDU or MDDUS after comiting negligence. Hope you find this useful: ( http://www.bma.org.uk/international/immigration/guidedrsnewUK.jsp?page=9 ) Guide for doctors new to the UK Medical defence and indemnityDoes the NHS provide medical indemnity for its employees? Will this provide sufficient cover? The following are examples of eventualities and activities which are not covered:
( http://www.mddus.com/mddus/about-us.aspx ) The MDDUS is an independent mutual organisation offering expert medico-legal advice, dento-legal advice and professional indemnity for doctors, dentists and other healthcare professionals throughout the UK. Founded in 1902, we continually adapt and change with the times while maintaining a focus on providing our members throughout the UK with access to:
I am with MDDUS but anyone can join any organisation . I joined MDDUS since one of the agency advised me. |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/6/2012 12:03 PM BST
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Subsequent to the recent article in the BMJ reporting on the epidemiology of medical misfortune, the history and epidemiology of such misfortune should be rearched and written up as it will have many learning points for the medical and legal professions, health service managers and politicians.. |
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