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If anyone knows how doctors feel, when in exclusion/suspension, please share with us. It is horrible. I've been through it. Frankly I do not wish it to happen to anyone. It is a very dar
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 2/7/2012 9:45 PM BST
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What do I do to prevent suspension/exclusion.. Well I try to be a good doctor , to listen actively to my patient. I work very hard. I belong to the Medical defense union although it costs £6,000 pounds a year, I would not be allowed to work without medical insurance such as the MDU. I try to work within my competence and know the limits of my competence. I am aware that I am a 'high referrer' to secondary care, although our practice now does some internal referrals and we do peer review of referrals. How does one cope with suspension? I don't know, you try to keep physically and mentally active. If you you are able to get back on the Medical register that would be best , if it is not possible then one would need to look for an alternative career. Legal proceeding tend to take a very long time, it sometimes seems that lawyers live with a different notion of time to most people. In perhaps a lesser way than suspension/exclusion it is also difficult for Medical Student who start a medical education but do not complete it and have to find another career and may have life long regrets about not qualifying. |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 3/7/2012 8:52 PM BST
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What do I do to prevent suspension/exclusion.. . How does one cope with suspension? I don't know, you try to keep physically and mentally active. Posted by Pat Lush Dear Pat Lush, many thanks! I would add - "talk and tell others, do not surrender, keep fighting" |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/7/2012 4:24 AM BST
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Dear drmk, The whole situation sounds horrible, and I wish you all the best. I feel that I need to echo all of Pat Lush's points, particularly being as good a doctor as you can be, being aware of your limitations, and working within your competency. I'd also like to highlight that effective and honest communication with patients, families, and colleagues is the key to avoiding complaints in many situations. I have always been a member of a medical defence organisation, including when I moved away from the UK and became a doctor elsewhere in the world. While all publically employed doctors are employer indemnified for clinical negligence, the legal team's role is to defend the organisation as a whole (one which you are part of), yet may not act within your personal best interests. While I have not had any personal experience of this, peers who have been through various legal proceedings all discuss how important this is. All the best. LJC |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 5/7/2012 11:03 AM BST
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[QUOTE]Dear drmk, The whole situation sounds horrible, and I wish you all the best. I feel that I need to echo all of Pat Lush's points, particularly being as good a doctor as you can be, being aware of your limitations, and working within your competency. I'd also like to highlight that effective and honest communication with patients, families, and colleagues is the key to avoiding complaints in many situations. . LJC Posted by LJG[/QUOTE] Dear LJC, many thanks for taking your time to reply. Indeed, I too am a good doctor and the irony of the whole situation was that no complaints were raised what so ever. That is why I started this discussion - as there are doctors like me, who do not necessary need legal, or insurance, or indemnity advise, but - support : emotional, collegial and human. Since the suspension happened to me (if you want more details, I'll write you on your private message box here), I attended numerous workshops, etc. I came across other cases of suspension, like doctors ignoring child protection issues, doctors ignoring monitoring warfarin , doctors ignoring monitoring metotrexate, etc...It was nothing like this in my case, but still - I ended there. So my interest is to see why doctors end in suspension and when there are not any complaints against them, how do they overcome the shame, the isolation, the disgrace. Thanks |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 10/7/2012 7:41 PM BST
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the legal team's role is to defend the organisation as a whole (one which you are part of), yet may not act within your personal best interests. While I have not had any personal experience of this, peers who have been through various legal proceedings all discuss how important this is. Posted by LJG I agree - it is important, but only a few are interested. |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 10/7/2012 11:27 PM BST
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Dear LJC, many thanks for taking your time to reply. Indeed, I too am a good doctor and the irony of the whole situation was that no complaints were raised what so ever. That is why I started this discussion - as there are doctors like me, who do not necessary need legal, or insurance, or indemnity advise, but - support : emotional, collegial and human. Since the suspension happened to me (if you want more details, I'll write you on your private message box here), I attended numerous workshops, etc. I came across other cases of suspension, like doctors ignoring child protection issues, doctors ignoring monitoring warfarin , doctors ignoring monitoring metotrexate, etc...It was nothing like this in my case, but still - I ended there. So my interest is to see why doctors end in suspension and when there are not any complaints against them, how do they overcome the shame, the isolation, the disgrace. Thanks Posted by drmk[/QUOTE] I am glad to have your comments again, drmk, especially that the difference between your previous entries and now is noticable. You might not see it just yet, but you started to clarify your intention, your purpose of this interaction with all of us. And I wonder if you could take this intention a little bit further? ...... Would you? .......Where would it take you? At the same time I sense that you believe, you have become "a victim of a big error" and THAT weighs heavily on your heart. From my experience, it is unlikely to go away on it's own. In fact, it might stop you from moving on. ..... ? B |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 14/7/2012 11:11 AM BST
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you started to clarify your intention, your purpose of this interaction with all of us. And I wonder if you could take this intention a little bit further? ...... Would you? .......Where would it take you? At the same time I sense that you believe, you have become "a victim of a big error" and THAT weighs heavily on your heart. From my experience, it is unlikely to go away on it's own. In fact, it might stop you from moving on. ..... ? B Posted by Beata Salter[/QUOTE] Dear Beata Salter,thank you for your post Your suggestion about "THE BIG ERROR" sounds rather George Orwellian. There are indeed occasions when doctors are suspended due to further investigations and subsequently - nothing is found. I am not sure what did you mean by the "victim of the big error". I did not say this, did I? As with regards to my intentions - yes, they are clearly stated: how you for instance, as a doctor, would overcome the shame and the isolation pending such situation. Mind the investigators are not prepared to offer you any apology. Many thanks |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 24/7/2012 10:36 AM BST
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I am glad to have your comments again, drmk, Posted by Beata Salter[/QUOTE] Dear Beata Salter, a couple of weeks ago I posted (above) my comment under your suggestions. I wonder what your reply would be? Many thanks |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 26/7/2012 11:49 AM BST
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Dear drmk, The whole situation sounds horrible..., the legal team's role is to defend ... While I have not had any personal experience of this... Posted by LJG In your knowledge - do you happen to know if your suspended colleauges were charged, or not. If so - have they received any apology at the end? |
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