DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
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DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
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If anyone knows how doctors feel, when in exclusion/suspension, please share with us. It is horrible. I've been through it. Frankly I do not wish it to happen to anyone. It is a very dar
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 7/6/2012 10:27 AM BST
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penglish: QUOTing you: I would also strongly urge doctors to join the BMA. Employers often do not "play fair", and, once they've decided to pick on a doctor, will try everything they can - foul means as well as fair - to get rid of them. This sounds scary, really scary, are we talking Great Britain or China or Birma? |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 10/6/2012 8:26 PM BST
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[QUOTE] penglish[/QUOTE] Employers often do not "play fair", and, once they've decided to pick on a doctor, will try everything they can - foul means as well as fair - to get rid of them. You have some evidence i guess. Would you mind sharing your "samples" with us? |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 12/6/2012 1:44 AM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION: The thing is even after getting this sort of treatment ,you can not say with confidence that,"i'm free from all such sins and my body is purified".These things will/can haunt you either one way or the other. How much easier it will be for one to start it again in the same working environemt(department with the collegues you think were part of the problem) ? Have this happened to me,i would've left the country for sometime, availing it as an opportunity to see life from a different angle.But i know it's no solution/option for everyone. Posted by SURB I can't agree more! Keep in mind - colleauges talking about you behind your back are always nice and polite, when approached and asked face to face WHY? |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 12/6/2012 3:06 PM BST
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[QUOTE]Wafaa Nagiub It is horrible, isolating, demeaning and soul destroying especially when a non-existent case is made up against you. I 100% agree, there is no consistency in giving these sanctions, it all depends ............. Did you manage to find another employment after your suspension? |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 12/6/2012 6:39 PM BST
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It seems to me that you are up against a common psychological and greed problem that affects us all one way or another. In school there were always a few who wanted to run things, capable or not,. They sought class president and other positions of importance not usually because of their capability, but because of their egos. Later these types who probably actually needed mental attention studied how to take over and became lawyers and politicians. In those positions they can satisfy their egos and extract substantial remuneration from the public that they like to abuse. |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 13/6/2012 9:37 AM BST
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Clintb In school there were always a few who wanted to run things, capable or not,. They sought class president and other positions of importance not usually because of their capability, but because of their egos. Later these types who probably actually needed mental attention studied how to take over and became lawyers and politicians. In those positions they can satisfy their egos and extract substantial remuneration from the public that they like to abuse.I can't agree more. But what do we do when we face such greed and abuse by "presidents" who think their "ego" is more important. THANKS A LOT! |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 13/6/2012 12:07 PM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION: SURB- answering you: No, if you are suspended, you are not allowed to do anything, just stay at your prison (at home?) and worry to death. No research work, no training, let go - locums. It is horrible. Any doctor, especially foreign, who speaks his mind, could get easily in trouble. At the time of my suspension, there was someone else, who received a more linient "sentence" - he/she was only taken of the on-call rota. In my case however things got dirty and nasty - over than 4 months "investigation". I do not wish it to happen to anyone of you. The so called "litigation culture" in this country is a bit of a show. It is an industry too. They employ a batalion of "investigators", create a massive paper work, waste money on postage, telephones, milage, useless meetings. Why? Just to prove how "deeply concerned" they are if you can't keep your mouth shut and your eyes closed. Ridicilous. Well, I am learning this "lesson" - if this is what they want, I'll play their game. The trouble is that this country pretends to be "democratic" and liberal and the "freedom of speech" is welcomed. What a lot of hipocracy! It is even worse than China and Russia Posted by drmk Dear drmk, it sounds as though you are in a difficult place. Your designated RO (Responsible Officer) should be able to direct you towards two organisations, one which offers emotional support and practical advice during an episode like this; and another newer one which only comes into play if a health problem has been identified. I do understand your sense of wanting to keep all this private, but that is really not healthy. Maybe you don't want to tell your parents, but as far as colleagues are concerned, most of us read case reports thinking how easily we could find ourselves in the same situation. From your brief hints, you haven't done anything motivated by greed or self-interest, so there is no cause for shame. We all make mistakes and errors of judgement - even me - and should support colleagues dealing with the consequences of their own (or someone else's) human error. Keep us posted, this is a caring community. |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 13/6/2012 2:57 PM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION: In Response to Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION : I can't agree more! Keep in mind - colleauges talking about you behind your back are always nice and polite, when approached and asked face to face WHY? Posted by drmk Do not surrender! You are not the only one and I am positive you won't be the only one. Sadly |
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Re: DOCTORS IN SUSPENSION/EXCLUSION
posted at 14/6/2012 11:39 AM BST
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[QUOTE]SusannahK[/QUOTE] Maybe you don't want to tell your parents, but as far as colleagues are concerned, most of us read case reports thinking how easily we could find ourselves in the same situation. Thank you for your kindness. Talking to parents is not always wise. Keep in mind that I am not in my 20's, neither in my 30's, or 40's. I am much older and my parents are frail. It is a real hell. I did not do any mistakes. The only thing which I did was - to stand up for my patients. As to many other foreign doctors - to me too - it was impossibe to know and to implement all these "political correctness" and "whistle-blowin" policies. Insurances and MDU amd MDUS - too. If you want to kneo more, please contact me on my private message box here. I also am interested in what do you think about RETURNING TO WORK after suspension? How would you and the rest of doc2doc readers would feel in my situation? Would you/they feel safe? I very much doubt. And at the end of the day - is ist worth going back to there, where you've been ridiculed, mocked and ignored. This is emotional rape, Men can be raped too. |
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