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I am interested in hearing from you - what do you think, when you are shortlisted by a potential employer, attend the interview and the following happen to you: 1. the interview pannel do
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DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 21/6/2012 2:17 PM BST
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I am interested in hearing from you - what do you think, when you are shortlisted by a potential employer, attend the interview and the following happen to you: 1. the interview pannel do not even offer you a glass of water, let go - visiting the WC 2. the interview pannel do not take interest in your documents 3. they start the interview earlier than the appointed time 4. they do not take care of your answers /clinical scenario 5. they are watching their watches constantly 6. they are recording your answers on a separate sheet of paper (not within the bunch of questions) 7. they look compltely dis interested in the interview process 8. whispering in front of you about "the next candidate waiting outside" 9. they find excuses for not contacting you after the interview 10. on the same day however - they contact your phone number to ask "if you are interested to apply for vacancies" with them ?!?! 11. they refuse to pay travel expenses. If you are interested to know more details - who these employers are, please contact me on my private message box here. good luck |
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Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 21/6/2012 4:22 PM BST
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The above discribed situation applies not only for the private sector clinical employers, but to the NHS - too. There are a few NHS Trusts, notorious with such "techiques" |
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Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 21/6/2012 6:02 PM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number": The above discribed situation applies not only for the private sector clinical employers, but to the NHS - too. There are a few NHS Trusts, notorious with such "techiques" Posted by drmk I am not surprised. Transparent and fair interviews are only on paper |
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Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 21/6/2012 7:18 PM BST
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I am not surprised. Transparent and fair interviews are only on paper Posted by GerryP[/QUOTE] Indeed. So when was your last interview? Last month? Last year? 5 years ago? |
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Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 22/6/2012 11:40 AM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number": I am not surprised. Transparent and fair interviews are only on paper Posted by GerryP Indeed. So when was your last interview? Last month? Last year? 5 years ago?Posted by drmkIt was not recently, but, when I asked for their feedback, the answers were irrelevant |
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Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 26/6/2012 3:09 PM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number": In Response to Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number" : Indeed. So when was your last interview? Last month? Last year? 5 years ago? Posted by drmk It was not recently, but, when I asked for their feedback, the answers were irrelevantPosted by GerryP Thanks, but what do you mean by "irrelevant"? What did they explain, why were you not successful? |
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Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 26/6/2012 5:38 PM BST
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Another thing which has not been listed is: all the candidates waiting outside are told that they are not selected. This means that the selected candidate who is often internal, is not interviewed on the same occassion. |
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Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 26/6/2012 6:33 PM BST
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In Response to Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number": Another thing which has not been listed is: all the candidates waiting outside are told that they are not selected. This means that the selected candidate who is often internal, is not interviewed on the same occassion. Posted by Khizar Yes, indeed. Quite machiavellian. Still - do you stand any chance for a fair feedback?... Anyone else here with more experience? c'mon |
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Re: DOCTORS JOB INTERVIEWS - 11 signs that you have been used as a "number"
posted at 26/6/2012 7:29 PM BST
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This is a very sad and bitter post, and I wonder if it shows at interview. Having frequently interviewed more recently than been interviewed, I would respond that interviews fall into 2 categories, those for training posts, which are usually mass interviews at deanery level, and those for single posts within a unit (talking only about NHS here).
For the mass interviews, everyone bends over backwards so that every candidate gets the same experience, to the extent of sometimes starting early to accommodate a candidate who has come a long way and has a train back to catch. Looking at the candidates' paperwork is the province of the deanery staff, until the point where the top scorers are being finalised, when references are looked at. Locally working candidates may well disappear early to get back to work and be contacted later if selected. Unless there are huge numbers of jobs, the chances are that more candidates will be disappointed than offered posts on the day; this will mean that those appointed scored better at the interview. Usually, one of the senior interview panel members will be delegated to offer feedback to candidates based on notes made on their scoring script at the time. All candidates would be invited to submit an expenses sheet. It is accepted practice for those interviewing to have undergone training in equality and diversity issues. The local type of interview, in my experience, is less structured; to be honest, more often the interview panel, who may well have been assembled at short notice from their clinical duties (which may explain why they are looking at their watches) is left waiting by candidates who do not bother to pitch up and do not bother to inform the Human Resources department concerned that they are not attending. In that situation, we have certainly interviewed someone who has turned up early rather than hang on till later in the hope that the other candidates will pitch up. It would be very rude for a candidate not to be shown where the facilities are, and mostly, I have seen candidates drinking a cup of tea or coffee while waiting, though as the person doing the interviewing, I have not felt it to be my responsibility to be doing the offering myself. Invariably, after assessing the applicants scores and deciding who is to be offered the post, the HR person has asked, "Which of you will speak to the unsuccessful candidates?" This is a very difficult job. There is often relatively little to choose between the candidates, most of whom have worked hard to get various postgraduate qualifications, and have varying degrees of skill at communication, problem solving and attitude. Yet on the day, all the interview panel can do is to see who scores "above the line" for appointability" and select one of those in that group based on performance in other areas. It should not be surprising if a local candidate does well - they know the unit and its strengths and weaknesses, and may well have undergone training in communication skillslocally. They will also be more relaxed in a familiar setting. They may also have gone back to work and not be waiting outside with the rest. I have also known HR staff ask the candidates, if they are not appointed, whether they would be interested in locum posts within that trusts, though usually ahead of the interview. Similarly, applicants for training numbers may be asked if they would be prepared to accept fixed term training appointments, since the deaneries are strictly restricted as to the number of numbers thay can appoint. This is reasonable though it may seem crass; The person appointed may have to give notice, and if the job is vacant, and other (appointable) candidates not currently working, they may welcome locum opportunites. It depends how keen they really were to work in that trust (or was it "give me a job, any job"?), or if they feel affronted at not being appointed, in which case they needn't take up the offer of the temporary post. I agree, there is absolutely no excuse for rudeness, but I have never known an interview where feedback was not available if wanted. It is not appropriate not to pay reasonable expenses, as laid down in the interview invitation letter (ie not air fares into the UK from overseas). If you have been refused reasonable expenses, then you should contact the BMA for help - if you are a member. However, at the end of the day, no-one likes to be informed that they were not the best candidate for the job. It has happened to all of us, and one day, unless there really is a problem with your presentation and skills, you will be the one being offered the job and the others outside looking for reasons outside themselves why they have failed to be appointed. You may want to approach your seniors or College Tutor for some interview practice, to see if they can help you with interview skills. |
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