Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
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Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
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As a confirmed atheist in the finest traditions of Prof Dan Dennett, Dr Sam Harris, Prof Richard Dawkins and the late and much lamented Christopher Hitchens (The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse) I ne
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Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
posted at 6/1/2012 3:31 PM GMT
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WOW - What a mass or replies and posts to a topic that could not be that terribly important. Take for example a Cardiac Surgeon who plays Golf, One could surmise that the playing of golf has no negative or positive outcomes for his patients, nor does it help or hinder his surgery skills, Yet this Doctor plays golf, and in a real sense he Believes in Golf! So why then does it matter of an evidence based Doctor believes in God? When treating a case of Anthrax I believe Ciprofloxacin is the standard of care for elimanation of the disease, so if this Doctor believes in God, will he prescribe something else? Probably not. God for many is a Hitch post where they firmly lash their ethical behavior and form an ideal mindset to practice a Faith based life, filled with optimism. In many ways it matters not whether you believe in God or not, but rather whether you believe in what God Teaches, in any number of Sacred Texts, The Bible, Quran, Bagavad Gita, Tao Te Ching, etc. For me my Faith is merely a reminder to walk through life, helping people, and to leave behind more positive things when I am Dead, than negative things while I was alive. Sort of like Giving back to Life, a greater portion of the goodness that I enjoyed while I was alive. DuaneF |
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Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
posted at 6/1/2012 10:10 PM GMT
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In response to "Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?": WOW - What a mass or replies and posts to a topic that could not be that terribly important. Take for example a Cardiac Surgeon who plays Golf, One could surmise that the playing of golf has no negative or positive outcomes for his patients, nor does it help or hinder his surgery skills, Yet this Doctor plays golf, and in a real sense he Believes in Golf! So why then does it matter of an evidence based Doctor believes in God? When treating a case of Anthrax I believe Ciprofloxacin is the standard of care for elimanation of the disease, so if this Doctor believes in God, will he prescribe something else? Probably not. God for many is a Hitch post where they firmly lash their ethical behavior and form an ideal mindset to practice a Faith based life, filled with optimism. In many ways it matters not whether you believe in God or not, but rather whether you believe in what God Teaches, in any number of Sacred Texts, The Bible, Quran, Bagavad Gita, Tao Te Ching, etc. For me my Faith is merely a reminder to walk through life, helping people, and to leave behind more positive things when I am Dead, than negative things while I was alive. Sort of like Giving back to Life, a greater portion of the goodness that I enjoyed while I was alive. DuaneF Posted by DuaneF After all this foreplay, how about we discuss, Does God Exist......just joking. |
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Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
posted at 6/1/2012 10:46 PM GMT
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Sure Odysseus, We can discuss Does God exist? If you like, but judging from the pasting of my reply into your Post, I assume your being Facetious. In any event, I am not one prone to proselytizing . In Fact I am more of a person who really does not care if anyone believes anythig divine in nature. I merely believe that the universe with all its grand design must have been ordered by a Divine Entity, since mankind could not have made all that we observe. Just like my view on abortion, If someone wants one fine, that is not my decision, I just have my opinions, and they are valid, as are the Atheists. DuaneF |
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Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
posted at 7/1/2012 1:12 AM GMT
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Well if there is no God then people who believe and spend their life doing good and praying will have done that in vain as far as eternal rewards are concerned, so no different from those who don't. But what happens to YOU if there is? |
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Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
posted at 7/1/2012 2:19 AM GMT
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If you only do good things for eternal rewards in the larger cosmological scheme of things you are totally missing the whole point. That way of thinking is commercial. It is no wonder few got Jesus. Only man could think the hereafter (au delà) as the French call is a place of pecking orders, rewards, real estate and status. Surely it will be egalitarian, with solar heating and recycled water. There will be no gender and no late night shopping. Men are afraid of the Great Oblivion although they came from it and it stretches behind them for a billion years. No one seems to fret about all that time before without them. It is just the other side of the equation which confronts the human ego which exists in its fragile and voracious state like a fish from the abyss with luminescent baubles dangling from its head. It needs food and Hope that there is a re-run after we muck this one up. One day the universe will run down and cool to absolute zero. This will be the Great Oblivion. It will be on a Thursday as ther will no more thaw. Consult you books on astrophysics as this is evidence-based. |
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Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
posted at 7/1/2012 3:30 AM GMT
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Well Odysseus, True and False both I am afraid, The end of time and the universe will not necessarily fall on a Thursday, although I know that was humor, But also more to the point, there are digressive views within Astrophysics as to the end of the universe, I suggest you read some of Michio Kakus work, and others, The Universe might well reform into another Big Bang, as some have postulated. There are also many worlds theories, postulating the existence of multiverses contained within our universe, so Your Astrophysics opinion is just that, An Opinion! The Universe contains alot of Dark Matter, and there are possibly other Universes, and various String theories and Membrane theories all leading to superstring theory, but even Hawkings Theory does not cover the entirety of all that is or might be. As for me, I worry not about the end, but the present, I do good now, acting by the tenets of my Anglican Faith to assist others now, not really caring about Eternity, My attitude is this, {{If I do Good Now, without thought of reward or punishment later, I will fullfill Gods wishes}}. Too many people worry about later, forgetting to serve mankind now. DuaneF |
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Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
posted at 7/1/2012 9:40 AM GMT
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I am relieved Duane. I a still sure about something happening ona Thursday. Take our weather bureau for example. They always get the forecast spot on. It is just the days they get wrong. I find it reassuring that we could be in for the big cosmic concertina with Big Bang Two and as for garbage disposal, antimatter and black holes are the obvious solution. No more recycle bins on Thursdays (or is it Wednesday). My philosophy of doing good deeds is that they are done Ipso facto, de Volvo and ne plus ultra. Just do them in secret lest you be like the Pharisses. I think most atheists really long for God. It is just like the single man who has not found the right woman. It would make the whole world so much simpler. |
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Re: Can evidence based Doctors believe in God?
posted at 7/1/2012 4:11 PM GMT
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I agree Odysseus, good deeds should be done in secret, that is why when I send off money to charity I do not put a return addy on mail, nor on money order. I also like to secretly buy things for people,, gifts and such, and just watch their surprised faces. No that does not mean I am getting you a Kindle Odysseus, you no doubt make far more than me, financially, so that would mean you buy me an Ipad. :) DuaneF |
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