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Doctor Shortage Likely to Worsen With Health Law By  ANNIE LOWREY  and  ROBERT PEAR Published: July 28, 2012 RIVERSIDE, Calif. — In the Inland Empire, an economically depressed r
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From todays New York Times: Doctor Shortage Likely to Worsen With Health Law

posted at 29/7/2012 12:43 PM BST on bmj.com
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Doctor Shortage Likely to Worsen With Health Law

By ANNIE LOWREY and ROBERT PEAR

Published: July 28, 2012

RIVERSIDE, Calif. — In the Inland Empire, an economically depressed region in Southern California, President Obama’s health care law is expected to extend insurance coverage to more than 300,000 people by 2014. But coverage will not necessarily translate into care: Local health experts doubt there will be enough doctors to meet the area’s needs. There are not enough now.

Other places around the country, including the Mississippi Delta, Detroit and suburban Phoenix, face similar problems. The Association of American Medical Colleges estimates that in 2015 the country will have 62,900 fewer doctors than needed. And that number will more than double by 2025, as the expansion of insurance coverage and the aging of baby boomers drive up demand for care. Even without the health care law, the shortfall of doctors in 2025 would still exceed 100,000.

COMMENT: Our discussions about expanding the role of nurses and other health professionals seems timely given that the already acute primary care physician shortage is about to get really serious as the ACA is implimented in the US.


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posted at 29/7/2012 7:24 PM BST on bmj.com
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Perhaps the Role of Paramedics could be expanded as well,  they are in australia.   In the Army Basic medics handle more health roles,   might be worth looking into.    DuaneF

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posted at 29/7/2012 8:36 PM BST on bmj.com
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In the States there are three groups of "physician extenders".  What were called parametics now reffered to generally  as EMTs staff ambulances and are trained in acute life support.  They usually function with direct telephone support from their emergency room physicians.  Advanced practice nurses deliver care after two years of special training in a variety of areas usually in primary care. They generallywork with a physician or a physician group and are a mainstay of community health centers and rural areas.  Over 50% of US physicians' practice alone with almost always an Advanced practice nurse. Physicians' Assistants have less training and require more medical supervision, but otherwise serve similar roles.  There is no doubt that their roles and numbers will increase to care for the newly insured.  See several posts on Advanced practice nurses over the last few days for more details.

Re: From todays New York Times: Doctor Shortage Likely to Worsen With Health Law

posted at 30/7/2012 8:17 AM BST on bmj.com
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This is not a new problem - I wrote a paper on these issues in 1999 in relation to the state of New Mexico which detailed the problems and the innovative solutions there. Yes, they included extended role EMTs, physician assistants and nurse practitioners but there were lots of other ideas and innovations too.

One of the fundamnetal problems in New Mexico was that very few doctors would work where they couldn't make lots of money and it's that culture that needs to change. In the UK a doctor's salary is set and guaranteed to a large extent by the Government in discussion with the doctors' trade union, the BMA, and whilst they seldom reach the dizzy heights of earnings that their US counter-parts do UK doctors still make a decent living that's enough to ensure doctors in every neck of the woods.

So, for example, an average senior family practitioner wil earn about US$160,000 per annum and an average senior hospital specialist about US$230,000. In addition, indemnity insurance for hospital doctors is largely coverd by the Government and rates for family doctors are about US$4500 per annum.

Finally it is always worth pointing out that the UK's NHS costs the UK Government just under 10% of GDP. This contrasts to a current figure of 17% GDP paid by the US Government for healthcare yet the UK has the "socialised" healthcare system. How can that be?

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posted at 30/7/2012 2:16 PM BST on bmj.com
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I don't get it. Medical indemnity costs are rising. I went to a talk at my son's high school where we were told to enter medicine your university entrance score now has to be so high it would make Einstein look like a mental defective.

Are these medical -extenders (akin to sea-food extenders) covered by the same medical indemnity insurance companies that I send large cheques to each year?

The use of nurses and other non-MBBS (MD for US citizens) is a wonderful idea. But if MBBS Mensa geniuses can screw up, why not people with less than an IQ of 150 and not members of MENSA?

I do observe that the MENSA geniuses that I teach often have about as much common sense and native IQ as a spleinwort. Funny...? Just an aside. Probably off-topic and verboten. Life is full of paradoxes.

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posted at 30/7/2012 3:57 PM BST on bmj.com
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Addressing the Physician Shortage Under Reform

—By Sarah Mann

Given the likelihood that more people will enter the health care system in coming years following passage of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), it is equally likely that more doctors will be needed to treat them.

Recognizing the growing gulf between physician supply and patient demand, medical education leaders and the AAMC are working to inform Congress and other lawmakers about the best means of addressing physician shortages. One of these potential means is lifting the existing cap on Medicare-funded residency positions.

“After the passage of ACA, there is recognition that there will be real physician shortages if we don’t do more to lift the residency cap,” said AAMC Chief Advocacy Officer Atul Grover, M.D., Ph.D. “People on both sides of the aisle have realized the need to train more doctors.”

 A physician shortage was already expected before ACA was signed into law in March 2010, and now that gap could worsen. According to projections released last fall by the AAMC Center for Workforce Studies, there will be a shortage of about 63,000 doctors by 2015, with greater shortages on the horizon—91,500 and 130,600 for 2020 and 2025, respectively. Earlier projections had placed the shortage at about 39,600 doctors by 2015. Since 2008, AAMC projections have incorporated later utilization data and changing specialization patterns among new physicians, and have shown shortages across those specialties as well as in primary care.

 

https://www.aamc.org/newsroom/reporter/april11/184178/addressing_the_physician_shortage_under_reform.html

 

COMMENT:  We are trying guys.  Already we have increased medical school slots by 13% with a target of a 30% increase by 2015.  One of the ironies of this situation covered in this nice article from the AAMC is that the major source of funding for residency positions, Medicare, is frozen at 1996 levels.  If we do not increase this number proportionately to the increased number of US graduates, then all that will happen is that the larger number of US graduates will displace the foreign graduates who are currently training in the US.  Foreign medical graduates now make up about 27% of the US physician workforce.  To lower that number we would have to increase the number of US graduates by nearly 60%, an unlikely scenerio.

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Thanks DiabetesMD - this is informative and helpful to my understanding of what is happening with my US cousins. As someone with family out there (one of whom has a serious long-term and potentially life-threatening and life shortening illness) I have a real interest in US healthcare.

I am in no way trying to be critical here but perhaps you could try and explain to me why the US Government spends nearly twice as much of its GDP on healthcare than the UK Govenrment yet we are the ones with the guaranteed universal, free-at-the-point-of-use healthcare system which covers every square inch of the UK no matter how remote or deprived.

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posted at 31/7/2012 10:26 PM BST on bmj.com
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 I will attempt to respond seriously to a seriously posed question:

I am in no way trying to be critical here but perhaps you could try and explain to me why the US Government spends nearly twice as much of its GDP on healthcare than the UK Government yet we are the ones with the guaranteed universal, free-at-the-point-of-use healthcare system which covers every square inch of the UK no matter how remote or deprived.”

 The fee-for-service system locked into the core of American medicine in the mid-Twentieth Century when private third party payers paid physicians the reasonable, customary and usual (RCU) for physician’s services. In the1960s the passage of Medicare and Medicaid established RCU as a matter of law in order to placate the American Medical Association. 

 This payment methodology for physicians was fundamentally problematic from the start.    It basically gave physicians control of setting the prices of medical care. 

Under fee-for-service paid for with RCUs, a newly developed procedure or technology would be scarce and therefore costly.  When I was at the Brigham in the 1960s, the going rate for mitral valvulotomy was 10 percent of one’s net worth.  There were few surgeons who could perform this costly, but life-saving procedure.  The same was true for coronary catheterization.  However, as these procedures became commonplace, their RCUs remained tied to their original scarcity.  This fact is fundamental reason why procedurally oriented specialties make two to three times the income of primary care specialties.

While this payment system has attracted the best and brightest entrepreneurs to medicine, it has a costly dark side.  In combination with the tremendous research and development engine at the NIH and the ability of the pharmaceutical and devise industries to develop and market new drugs and devices with assurance of payment at the highest rates in the world, these physician entrepreneurs moved American medicine to the head of the class in terms of technological quality and costs.

The second fundamental problem is the capitalistic, for-profit nature of American society as applied to medicine.  When Blue Cross and later Blue Shield were established, they were licensed as so-called health service benefit plans whose primary purpose was to assure that surgeons and hospitals were paid.  By law, they had to use community rating for their plans and offer open enrollment at least annually.   In the 1980s, they suffered badly from competition from commercial health insurance plans that could beat them out by experience rating employer-sponsored health plans.  Today virtually all Blue Cross/Blue Shield plans have converted into for-profit entities to compete with commercial insurance companies.  That means that a significant portion of insurance premiums goes to overhead.  The ACA will limit that to 20 percent for smaller companies and 15 percent for larger ones.  The truth is that most for-profit insurance companies profit primarily by denying care.  A proposition that even the conservative Forbes magazine columnist agrees with.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/12/28/more-proof-that-the-american-for-profit-health-insurance-model-is-doomed/

 The same for-profit model has been adopted by hospitals and hospital systems creating more money for the systems and fewer dollars directed at delivering care.  Perhaps the most frightening trend is the development of multiplexes of physician specialists that can dominate a medical community’s care and that embody behavior that even the most monopolist entrepreneurs would admire.

My wife, Eleanor Kinney, Hall Render Professor Emeritus of Law at Indiana University McKinney School of Law is an internationally recognized expert on this subject.  She sent me a couple of citations that expand on these themes.

For Profit Enterprise in Health Care:  Can it Contribute to Health Reform?

Eleanor D. Kinney

American Journal of Law & Medicine, 36 (2010): 405-435 © 2010 American Society of Law, Medicine & Ethics Boston University School of Law

The Corporate Transformation of Medical Specialty Care:

The Exemplary Case of Neonatology

Eleanor D. Kinney

Journal of law, medicine & ethics 790 health care • winter 2008

Re: From todays New York Times: Doctor Shortage Likely to Worsen With Health Law

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Thanks so much dMD - this is superbly informative. Now the next obvious question - why so much resistance for change from the general public?

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Steve,  I think Diabetes MD covered it pretty intensely,   but an interesting paradox is why an MRI in the USA costs $800.00,   and Sterile Catheters are billed for 45.00,   and single dose Antibiotic tablets dispensed at ER for $15.00 a pill,    this is insane,  the USA has a big problem with overbilling is my point, and therein lies the crux of our medical problem.    DuaneF
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