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Do you rely on the machine's ecg diagnosis?
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Do you rely on the machine's ecg diagnosis?
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One of my colleagues sent me this ecg which the machine reported as 'old lateral infarct' - do you agree?
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Re: Do you rely on the machine's ecg diagnosis?

posted at 19/5/2012 1:18 PM BST on bmj.com
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In Response to Re: Do you rely on the machine's ecg diagnosis?:
I agree with Ashutosh; the times for PR, QRS and QTc as well as Axes tend to be accurate.  Arguable the machines are better at measuring accurately than a human and therefore I do glance at the numbers to make sure the corroborate with my impression. As far as diagnostics, they machine does over interpret the findings and therefore this 'interpretation' isn't helpful at all. Conclusion:  Rely on machine's 'measurements', no 'interpretations'.  This probably holds true for all devices! 
Posted by drbanon

This is a rewarding action for me for which I must be thankful to drbanon.
I do never acquire or perform the ECG by a technician, but always perform it myself, & uptill now I have performed more than five lacks of ECGs, considering the fact that ECG is the most important of all the diagnostic tools! & a slight error, by the machine or human error may account for tremendous degree of loss to the patient.

Re: Do you rely on the machine's ecg diagnosis?

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n Response to Re: Do you rely on the machine's ecg diagnosis?:
In Response to Re: Do you rely on the machine's ecg diagnosis? : This is a rewarding action for me for which I must be thankful to drbanon. I do never acquire or perform the ECG by a technician, but always perform it myself, & uptill now I have performed more than five lacks of ECGs, considering the fact that ECG is the most important of all the diagnostic tools! & a slight error, by the machine or human error may account for tremendous degree of loss to the patient.
Posted by Dr. K. Ashutosh


I think the machines can be useful in a busy departments where there are loads of ECG graphs to interpret, the ones which do not correlate with the clinical picture and diagnostic sense has to be revised

in the second ECG graph, if the patient has thyroid disease I will assume atrial fibrillation is correct answer

Re: Do you rely on the machine's ecg diagnosis?

posted at 21/5/2012 6:38 AM BST on bmj.com
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The second ecg is sinus rhythm with artefact - I think this is most clearly seen in the chest leads (the rhythm) and the artefact in the limb leads as one would expect.I also think that the machine's work to an algorithm but tend to over diagnose minor things and sometimes underdiagnose major things. I also look at the measured intervals but then make up my own mind over the rest of the ecg. Purists would say I'm lazy and should do my owm measurements!
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