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I make this post as a simple Segway into what people here feel about Study of Islamic Theology.  Last year I began a study of Islamic Theology to complement my Christian Education.  To date
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Re: Does Study of Islamic Theology Benefit Everyone?

posted at 30/6/2012 4:13 PM BST on bmj.com
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Of course!  Many years ago, I took a college course called "Eastern Religions" which essentially covered all major non-Christian religions.  I was nominally Christian at the time.  I learned a lot in that class.  I have since become a Jew and have several Muslim friends.  There are extremists in all religions!  The genteel British Anglicans and the extreme Christian right-wing fundamentalists in the US are both Christians yet some of those in the US are advocating lyncing and Koran-burning.  But understanding the basic "centrist" if you would theology can't hurt and definity might help.

Re: Does Study of Islamic Theology Benefit Everyone?

posted at 30/6/2012 6:01 PM BST on bmj.com
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As medical professionals and as members of the human race, it seems a worthy endeavour to strive to understand the basics of a broad base of cultures, which would include their theologies and would certainly not exclude islamic theology.  (Although I feel a bit of a hypocrite in saying this, since I can't personally lay claim to having read the Quran, the Mahabarata, or any major Buddhist text myself, and I don't believe I've looked inside a Bible in over a decade.)

As a med student, there is one thing I have found a little enlightening: of all the medical issues which need to be understood in a cultural context, psychiatric conditions would seem to need it most of all.  One interesting starting point which I found was the section in the Oxford Handbook of Psychiatry describing "mental illnesses" popularly recognised in a wide variety of cultures around the world; but it's no more than a starting point.

Re: Does Study of Islamic Theology Benefit Everyone?

posted at 1/7/2012 10:47 PM BST on bmj.com
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Hi Duaneaf and all colleagues
Thanks for bringing this topic and sharing your experience with us, as a muslim physician, tow things drew up  my attentin, describing it as illuminatig and as a journey.
 
 

Re: Does Study of Islamic Theology Benefit Everyone?

posted at 2/7/2012 4:39 AM BST on bmj.com
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I have been reading inGreek  about the Arabs and Islam in the times of the Byzantine empire and although this is not about theology it is about islam and its history. This has been enlightening and in particular the influence of Islamic scholars on a wide range of sciences, mathematics, art and textiles. We need more such input and less emotive clap trap. It is a pity that many of the less moderate elements have taken over Islam as portrayed in the West. 

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Very True Odysseus,  and Islamic Art is some of the finest on The Earth.   I also know much of modern Mathematics has roots in Islamic culture.  I would like to learn Arabic next,  I hope my Brain does not explode,  as the Calligraphy, and arabic Script seems quite complex,  but to me it is sticking ones toe deeper into the water,  and making the journey complete!   DuaneF

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I have been reading inGreek  about the Arabs and Islam in the times of the Byzantine empire and although this is not about theology it is about islam and its history. This has been enlightening and in particular the influence of Islamic scholars on a wide range of sciences, mathematics, art and textiles. We need more such input and less emotive clap trap. It is a pity that many of the less moderate elements have taken over Islam as portrayed in the West. 
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posted at 2/7/2012 6:15 AM BST on bmj.com
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Zenith and nadir are Arab words. Many stars are too. 

Re: Does Study of Islamic Theology Benefit Everyone?

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Zenith and nadir are Arab words. Many stars are too eg Aldebaran whose group the Hyades were named by the Persians as Na'ir al Dabaran. There are so many more. The Greeks lent many a name to the heavens too. 
It is a pity that Islam seems to have been hijacked by hateful nutters. 
I am sure they may do well to read some more of the Christian literature too. It might just benefit everyone.
Polar opinions appeal to simple minds who have not travelled. Sit down and eat with your neighbour and you might just see him as a person and not just some feared ideology. But I may be wrong... 
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Re: Does Study of Islamic Theology Benefit Everyone?

posted at 2/7/2012 10:44 PM BST on bmj.com
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dear sir :
 I am enjoying your fair  discussion about Islam and science, and its influence on many sciences today,but this is not a surprise if we know that the first chapter in quran which was descended to the illiterate prophet Mohammed peace be upon him by the angel Gibrail from Ulah our lord, which was encouraging him to read and learn and telling him a miracle about one the first stages of the growth of the human embyo,remembering that was before 1433 yrs.

Here is the translation:
{1} اقْرَأْ بِاسْمِ رَبِّكَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ

Proclaim! (or Read!) In the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created,

{2} خَلَقَ الْإِنْسَانَ مِنْ عَلَقٍ

Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood:

{3} اقْرَأْ وَرَبُّكَ الْأَكْرَمُ

Proclaim! and thy Lord is Most Bountiful,

{4} الَّذِي عَلَّمَ بِالْقَلَمِ

He Who taught (the use of) the Pen,

{5} عَلَّمَ الْإِنْسَانَ مَا لَمْ يَعْلَمْ

Taught man that which he knew not.

{6} كَلَّا إِنَّ الْإِنْسَانَ لَيَطْغَى

Nay, but man doth transgress all bounds,

Re: Does Study of Islamic Theology Benefit Everyone?

posted at 2/7/2012 11:18 PM BST on bmj.com
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Dr.Mohmmed,
Leaving aside the great difference between a blood clot and an ovum, does not the Quran offer other ways in which a god may have created man?  A mere google revels to this ignoramus, far from being a scholar of the Bible, let alone that book, the following:

It is he who has created man from water -- Sura 25:54
We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape.  -- Sura 15:26

Amongst his signs is this,  that he created you from dust. -- Sura 30:20
 He began the creation of man from clay, and made his progeny from a quintessence of fluid" (32:7-8).

But there is another way of seeing this, the making of a man out of clay, invigorated by a divine spark, not as a reflection of modern theories of embryology and the first emergence of life on earth, but as imitative magic.  In that wolrd view, an image of something to be influenced by the magic may be entangled with the real object by more magic.    The enchanted object is considered to be the same as the real object, so that injuries or benefits done to the model are affected on the real.   The model, of clay or wax, IS the living breathing human.

This view clearly applies to the Christian legend too, and I offer it, not to denigrate that or your interpretation, but to demonstrate that an even wider view can be of benefit.
John

Re: Does Study of Islamic Theology Benefit Everyone?

posted at 3/7/2012 2:34 AM BST on bmj.com
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All the elements of man were once made in a star. We are but star dust with life breathed in. Religion provides us with the poetry and science the words. With poetry we are more transcendent than trilobites and why they disappeared cannot be easily answered by science. 

Give me Ode to a Grecian Urn rather than the mere clay of the vessel; Homer instead of parchment. 
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