Extreme cheating: how far would you go to win a gold medal?
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You know that sport has gone to hell in a hand cart when your hear that athletes are breaking their own bones with hammers to gain a competitive advantage: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environmen
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Extreme cheating: how far would you go to win a gold medal?
posted at 23/8/2012 1:42 PM BST
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You know that sport has gone to hell in a hand cart when your hear that athletes are breaking their own bones with hammers to gain a competitive advantage: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19325756 It's just bonkers! |
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Re: extreme cheating
posted at 23/8/2012 2:09 PM BST
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I'm sure you have, Steve, but watch rugby and then wheelchair rugby, aka murderball. The level of aggression is much higher in the second! Those guys have got where they are by being so agressive, to themselves as well as their competitors. No excuse for self harm, but an explanation - they are self selected to be like that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzH3ro-cVHQ A frined is FOPR team at the wheelchair basketball, almost as bad as rugby. Unlike our aquatics experience, she is expecting injuries! John |
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Re: extreme cheating
posted at 23/8/2012 4:40 PM BST
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I thought this article was really really interesting. I hadn't ever thought about the physiology of sporting performance, so I was fascinated to read about the link between raised blood pressure and harder activity (although I was aware of the link with heart rate). It had also never occured to me that athletes with spinal injuries might not get this response. Of course cheating is nothing new in sport and some of the doping and other techniques used by able bodied athletes are likewise pretty extreme. But deliberately injuring yourself is a whole new level of risk I think. It sounds like the IPC needs to police this kind of thing as strictly as the IOC polices doping. |
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Re: extreme cheating
posted at 23/8/2012 6:59 PM BST
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I'm not certain I follow the physiology. The *aim* is to get their BP up. Surely the aim should be to improve tissue perfusion, which can be done by training to increase stroke volume, increase max HR, and improve lactate thresholds? By artificially elevating ABP, does this provide increased afterload, and therefore "train" the heart to develop a large stroke volume? I once had a nerve block following an operation. Very odd to be able to bash bits of one's self and feel absolutely nothing at all. The paralympics may be even more exciting than the olympics. Looking forward to the start. |
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Re: extreme cheating
posted at 23/8/2012 7:21 PM BST
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An interesting post! It is a surprising fact that athletes are breaking their own bones with hammers to gain a competitive advantage. But the techniques they are using might be quite harmful to themselves. Some of the ridiculous techniques being-
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