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Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 31/8/2010 4:53 PM BST
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According to this BBC report, two Italian doctors got into a fight in the delivery room as a woman was giving birth ...

"After a heated exchange of words, one of the doctors seized his colleague by the neck and shoved him into a wall, according to Mr Molonia's account to police, reports said. The other doctor reacted by punching a window, which shattered, injuring his hand, they said."

Has a colleague ever made you so irate you were close to physically attacking him/her? Did you manage to control yourself? would you react this way in front of a patient?

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Re: Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 31/8/2010 11:57 PM BST on bmj.com
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Yes. I have had many colleagues who have wound me up so much I wanted to hit them. However, I've never actually done it. Maybe I'm just all talk. Social laws state this kind of behaviour is unacceptable. It is unprofessional and irresponsible.

It isn't worth losing your job over losing your temper.

Re: Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 1/9/2010 12:58 AM BST on bmj.com
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Roosevelt wrote 'If you kick the person most responsible for your trouble right in the pants, you wouldn't be able to sit for a month'.

It is quite probable that if you find yourself often tempted to hit other colleagues, ad that this happens across different settings and with different people you meet, then it is you with the problem, not them.

Re: Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 1/9/2010 8:34 PM BST on bmj.com
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Although our ethical doctrine calls on physicians to earn the confidence of patients entrusted to their care, rendering to each a full measure of service and devotion, it’s not uncommon to witness our colleagues exhibiting disregard for patient safety. The media often highlights the arrogant, rude and high-handed attitude and behaviour problems of such doctors. Such unethical acts and professional misconduct, coupled with inability to work as part of a team have not only brought disgrace to the medical profession, but has endangered the lives of the innocent patients. It’s perhaps paradoxical that a profession that prides itself on being caring, with the guiding principle of "first do no harm," finds it so difficult to care for its own members.  

Re: Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 1/9/2010 8:42 PM BST on bmj.com
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Of course, I think everyone has had colleagues that have wound them up to the point that a good puch would be sufficient. But I think that I would never have it in me to hit the person, rather I would walk away to end the arguement or problem quickly.

Obviously, one should sort out the problem the next day and not leave a tense atmosphere to grow between colleagues.

Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

Re: Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 1/9/2010 9:08 PM BST on bmj.com
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 Unfortunately this thought has crossed my mind. Once when a colleague was telling me "I can't make new kidneys for your mother" when my late mother had end stage renal failure and her condition deteriorated. She was admitted and first placed on high dose diuretics that did not work  and she went into severe acidosis. Instead of emergency dialysis this colleague was doing nothing Only my threat that things would end badly if my mother died made him think and call the nephrologist,  who came and saved her life. If it wasn't my medical diploma I would certainly hurt that careless colleague.

Another instance was with my late grandmother in ICU, who was anuric for 7 (!) days and didn't die. I thought I will hit the head of ICU at some point. Only after yelling(and not far away from punching) did they perform dialysis that helped.

But. really people sometimes forget the human side of equation and behave in such nasty ways it makes you wonder who got into medical school and who became senseless and sometimes even cruel to patients and their families. 

Re: Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 1/9/2010 11:30 PM BST on bmj.com
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I think it would be the rare soul who has not been tempted to hit a colleague. In any job. With the increased responsibility and stress that comes with the job, it only makes it more likely to occur in the medical profession. But professionalism (again, in any job) should be shown and more so in the medical profession, due to once again, the increased responsibility and stress.

A better way to deal with the problem must be sought, and it is highly probable that any way you can think of right now is indeed a better way.

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Re: No but some hit the bottle.

posted at 2/9/2010 12:24 AM BST on bmj.com
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No, never. I know some colleagues who hit the bottle. We invest too much precious energy in such conflicts. When you feel like that, take a deep breath and go and contemplate your navel for a while.

Most of this is barn-yard stuff with much testosterone and ego thrown in.

I overheard two psychology  professors while having breakfast at my hotel the other morning. They were talking about two leading colleagues  on other side of the Little Pond (Atlantic) who held differing theories and who hated each other vehemently and openly in meetings.  

 This to me seemed that they had made those theories part of their own persona and no doubt aided by egocentricity. As I  overheared all this, it seemed both ironic and paradoxical that these men who had dedicated their lives to the inner workings of the human mind, had gained such little insight and underneath it all, had not achieved any sense of wisdom, inner peace, harmony with the Cosmos or their fellow creatures. They had appropriated facts and theory but these were not transformational in their human journey. Indeed they were destructive.

I presented a poster today.  It  was received well but when sees about 480 posters presented for the day, the size of one's work take on some persecutive  

The only person who was at all offensive was an Englishman who initially put me in my place by telling me that he was a Professor of Rhubarbology at  St Elswhere's in London (I dare not say where). Rather than talking about the big picture I was attempting to convey, he immediately tried to put my in my place by focussing on one set of statistical analysis which in his opinion, should have shown a much larger value (more significant). He asked me what test I had used. At first I had to think as it was a while since we did it. I replied that it was the z test  for comparison of proportions (which it was). He had never heard of it, dismissed it as likely to be errant nonsense and walked off.  The others were in general  very friendly and wanted me to talk them through it. My assessment of  him was that he related to colleagues by peeing more urine, higher on a bigger post. It is all about marking territory, dominance, power and pecking order. This is inherently what has lead to the destruction of Gaia and leads to such unhappiness internally and externally.

Re: Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 2/9/2010 6:48 PM BST on bmj.com
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@ doctorniz

Yes … a better way to deal with the problem must be sought…

To avoid conflict among doctors, periodic “staff meetings” can be arranged so that doctors can discuss how they want things to be done. Doing so reduces the possibility that doctors will clash because each thinks the other is doing the job wrong. By sharing information and ideas in a setting that isn't ripe for conflict, doctors can build the basis for being able to work together when conflict erupts. If a conflict arises, discussing with one, then the other, then both together prevents future disputes.

If a dispute is getting polarized and attempts to reach a solution have been unsuccessful, a neutral ‘third party’ intervention may help. In extreme cases requesting the disputant (either one or both) to leave may be the final choice rather than stay put with the tension that may hurt a practice financially and even compromise patient care.

Re: Ever been tempted to hit a colleague?

posted at 16/9/2010 7:26 PM BST on bmj.com
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 It depends on whom you are working with. At times you get so irritated by a person's attitude you simply can't resist. But there comes a question of professionalism. If you have differences of thoughts regarding management of case, discussions can be undertaken, people can argue. But physically attacking a person during duty hour at hospital...while attending a patient is simply irrational. If you have personal problems that should be sorted out when a person is not in the duty......outside the hospital. Those 2 Italians seem to be childish.

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