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I am very interested in clinicial research... How do clinicians feel about clinicial research? Is it something they wish to go into, work part-time in? Or altogether avoid? How have the clinicians in
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To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 9:53 AM BST
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I am very interested in clinicial research... How do clinicians feel about clinicial research? Is it something they wish to go into, work part-time in? Or altogether avoid? How have the clinicians in research found it - exciting, rewarding, boring? |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 10:41 AM BST
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Clinical research is part of our continuous, self evaluating process which is endless! To have a targeted research job during postgraduation is different from what we learn or try to research during our clinical career with a well balanced view to perceive, in other words is what is known as evidence based medicine. The research process always seems challenging as well as interesting. |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 10:59 AM BST
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thankyou Dr Ashutosh. i completely agree with you. i wonder if there are any clinicians on doc2doc who do research or have done a PhD whilst working as a doctor. i think this is something i'd like to do, and would love for some information of how they find it, and what inspired them to go for it? |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 2:59 PM BST
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In Response to Re: To Research or Not to Research?: thankyou Dr Ashutosh. i completely agree with you. i wonder if there are any clinicians on doc2doc who do research or have done a PhD whilst working as a doctor. i think this is something i'd like to do, and would love for some information of how they find it, and what inspired them to go for it? Posted by researchPO We have a slightly different system in the US. I did the MD PhD many many years ago- the way it works here: first two years of preclinical done and USMLE step I taken. Then do research and complete PhD in about 3 years. Once that is done go back and compleete the 2 clinical years and complete USMLE-2. We then apply for the match and work on our internship and residency ( have to take USMLE-3) Once residency is completed we have to take our specialty boards.One could also do a research fellowship depending on the program. If you are wanting to do research, make sure you are interested and do it for the right reason. It is a significant decision and keep ideologies out of it ( you can have lifelong learning from your patients and providing care ). Consider the impact it will have on your family and time constraints. Please also understand you do need a PhD to do research- there are plenty of MD's doing cuting edge research. If you interested I would recommend identifying a mentor and discussing it to understand what is it you are interested in. thanks. |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 3:03 PM BST
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In Response to Re: To Research or Not to Research?: In Response to Re: To Research or Not to Research? : We have a slightly different system in the US. I did the MD PhD many many years ago- the way it works here: first two years of preclinical done and USMLE step I taken. Then do research and complete PhD in about 3 years. Once that is done go back and compleete the 2 clinical years and complete USMLE-2. We then apply for the match and work on our internship and residency ( have to take USMLE-3) Once residency is completed we have to take our specialty boards.One could also do a research fellowship depending on the program. If you are wanting to do research, make sure you are interested and do it for the right reason. It is a significant decision and keep ideologies out of it ( you can have lifelong learning from your patients and providing care ). Consider the impact it will have on your family and time constraints. Please also understand you do need a PhD to do research- there are plenty of MD's doing cuting edge research. If you interested I would recommend identifying a mentor and discussing it to understand what is it you are interested in. thanks. Posted by Happy CORRECTION : YOU DO NOT NEED A PHD TO DO RESEARCH. |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 3:59 PM BST
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It's still seen as necessary that candidates for consultant posts have done some research. This leads to some pretty 'mickey-mouse' papers. Seems to me that academic departments should have research programmes into which trainees can be slotted, for 3-6 month secondments, and have their names on the papers that come out of it. This could discharge the responsibility (?) of academe to teach research, provide time expired trainees with CV fodder for their appointment committees, AND ensure that some decent results appear at the end. How many Professorial Depts do this? John |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 4:01 PM BST
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Hi all, I am glad to know the interest in research(basic/clinical) has flourished and has been able to reach and encourage yound physicians. While I am very interested in clinical research, I often face many obstacles in relation to resources and proper guidance. I began my first study when I was an undergraduate made me understand the essence of evidence based medicine. I believe research and clinical practice can go hand in hand from what I have observed in my country as well as in the foreign countries. I definitely agree that an enthusiasm/interest and most importantly patience is necessary for any study. These days, I try to stay in touch with the lastest research studies and see how and in what way can they be applied in a developing country like mine. Perhaps I can come with a great research idea some day! |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 10:59 PM BST
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Celes, I'm sure you will :) I can see how PhD's are required for consultant posts, but I am interested in research at the moment because i have a great mentor/supervisor, who has inspired me and also made me see how fun and interesting research is. I feel research is what makes medicine keep rolling.. without it, medicine would just be stagnant, with no developments, no improvements. This is obvious, but I get a buzz from knowing that a new idea/concept/technology etc has improved healthcare around the world. If I think about it, i find it overwhelming how much medicine has transformed through research. |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 11:04 PM BST
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The US system sounds very complicated. As a US medic, are u interested in research? is there an area of research you're interested in? I believe in the UK one is able to do a PhD at any point in their career, even while they work. i think a day in the week is set aside for research, but i may be wrong. In Response to Re: To Research or Not to Research?: In Response to Re: To Research or Not to Research? : We have a slightly different system in the US. I did the MD PhD many many years ago- the way it works here: first two years of preclinical done and USMLE step I taken. Then do research and complete PhD in about 3 years. Once that is done go back and compleete the 2 clinical years and complete USMLE-2. We then apply for the match and work on our internship and residency ( have to take USMLE-3) Once residency is completed we have to take our specialty boards.One could also do a research fellowship depending on the program. If you are wanting to do research, make sure you are interested and do it for the right reason. It is a significant decision and keep ideologies out of it ( you can have lifelong learning from your patients and providing care ). Consider the impact it will have on your family and time constraints. Please also understand you do need a PhD to do research- there are plenty of MD's doing cuting edge research. If you interested I would recommend identifying a mentor and discussing it to understand what is it you are interested in. thanks. Posted by Happy |
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Re: To Research or Not to Research?
posted at 22/5/2012 11:06 PM BST
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I agree with Dr John D that it is important to do meaningful research. Dr John D, do you feel some medics do research for the sake of it, just to get jobs? In med school, a lot of students are scrammbling for a chance to get published in.. anything! what do you think of this? |
