Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
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We are living in a very fast era of technological advances. Long held ideals of science have been uprooted----------many traditional values have been erased forever. Doubt over how to liv
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Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
posted at 21/6/2012 10:41 AM BST
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We are living in a very fast era of technological advances. Long held ideals of science have been uprooted----------many traditional values have been erased forever. Doubt over how to live or what to believe has led to an increased sense of the meaninglessness of life. Today’s factory workers are frequently lack a connection with the product they produce. Many Social Theorists see this as a cause of Alienation. Thanks for sharing your personal thoughts. |
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Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
posted at 22/6/2012 7:59 PM BST
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Technology has brought about a radical shift in life-styles.Rural living with it`s emphasis on family and community has given way to a more urban, mobile society. Values have been lost. |
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Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
posted at 22/6/2012 8:28 PM BST
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I agree. People are more alienated. People tend to be to themselves, and the era where we all sit at screens is also a reason. Personal contact became less frequent, people call others "friends" at Facebook, while the friendship means very little. Present problems in economy have also affected people. You can feel people are more "locked" inside themselves, they are much less tolerant to others, much less communicative.
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Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
posted at 23/6/2012 8:43 AM BST
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Absolutely we have been alienated from each other and this is NOT confined to the Developed Western World alone. Now people die alone in old homes and away from their families ( of 5 children and 20 grandchilds). People are more hooked to the idiot box, spending time on social media and interacting with virtual friends than spending some time with the actuall friends and family members. I have seen people living in the same street and not interacting with each other for months.
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Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
posted at 23/6/2012 12:28 PM BST
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I live in a street of ghosts. Some people get to know their neighbours when they have been found dead after a few years. This happened in Sydney recently. In the West we have lost the parish. We have lost the village green and the markets and the sense of neighbourhood and we are all living in cells with security alarms and bars while our children play virtual games and date on virtual Sims. The loss of religion has something to do with this. We humans thrive on relationships and many of us a materially rich but poor. There is a move here for people to grown food producing gardens on the nature strip in front of houses and to share the produce in the street and to produce community. There is hope and it is happening here and elsewhere. We need to be more creative. It is all possible.
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posted at 23/6/2012 1:20 PM BST
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I would say the loss of any kind if faith, of a way, of direction. And the rise of one and only one thing: money. If Moses was to bring us the ten commandments again he would've surely broken the tables once again, because the world has built a golden calf of huge sizes. When no value is as important as money and our self control is below the level of the Dead sea, when violence, both physical and verbal is as common as it is, we end up with what we see. Nobody trust nobody. Doing things together is striving toward a common cause and growing things together using what mother nature gives us, is a step in the right direction. It is not applicable everywhere, however the idea behind it of having some common uniting cause and the hope to see something growing out of it is a powerful engine. Hope is the word. Powerful placebo healing effects can be achieved from hope and enthusiasm both of the care provider and the care receiver (I'll refrain from the word "patient" because is this process we are all patients and care givers).
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Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
posted at 23/6/2012 2:10 PM BST
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In Response to Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?: I would say the loss of any kind if faith, of a way, of direction. And the rise of one and only one thing: money. If Moses was to bring us the ten commandments again he would've surely broken the tables once again, because the world has built a golden calf of huge sizes. When no value is as important as money and our self control is below the level of the Dead sea, when violence, both physical and verbal is as common as it is, we end up with what we see. Nobody trust nobody. Doing things together is striving toward a common cause and growing things together using what mother nature gives us, is a step in the right direction. It is not applicable everywhere, however the idea behind it of having some common uniting cause and the hope to see something growing out of it is a powerful engine. Hope is the word. Powerful placebo healing effects can be achieved from hope and enthusiasm both of the care provider and the care receiver (I'll refrain from the word "patient" because is this process we are all patients and care givers). Posted by yoram chaiter Yoram I pretty much agree with your sentiment. But just look around the world at the wars and killings - it is almost exclusively religious groups fighting over land. Perhaps if religious people really believed in peace and love thy neighbour we would be in a wonderful world. |
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Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
posted at 23/6/2012 3:10 PM BST
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Kirked, you take this discussion and put it together with something else that was not intended to be said at all. Why? Is it the lawyer in you putting me on podium, and trying to question me in a manner I will say something that you want to put in my mouth??. A number of facts: 1. I am not religious 2. Faith is a completely different word from religion. You as a lawyer should know better. Faith is there to use for the atheist, the religious,etc. 3. There is nothing in what I said that implies that religion is the answer. Hope, faith (not religion) that there is something better in the future is what propells us. Can you participate in this discussion without immediately hinting toward Midle East conflict, or is it impossible for you? My example of Moses is simply a metaphor to say that today money is the chief concern and values such as volunteering, doing something for the other without expecting profit from it are becoming less and less common. |
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Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?
posted at 23/6/2012 3:32 PM BST
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In Response to Re: Do People feel more alienated today than in the past?: Kirked, you take this discussion and put it together with something else that was not intended to be said at all. Why? Is it the lawyer in you putting me on podium, and trying to question me in a manner I will say something that you want to put in my mouth??. A number of facts: 1. I am not religious 2. Faith is a completely different word from religion. You as a lawyer should know better. Faith is there to use for the atheist, the religious,etc. 3. There is nothing in what I said that implies that religion is the answer. Hope, faith (not religion) that there is something better in the future is what propells us. Can you participate in this discussion without immediately hinting toward Midle East conflict, or is it impossible for you? My example of Moses is simply a metaphor to say that today money is the chief concern and values such as volunteering, doing something for the other without expecting profit from it are becoming less and less common. Posted by yoram chaiter Yoram, I have no idea if you are religious or not, it is none of my business. My point was exactly as I said, I pretty much agree with your sentiment but when one looks around the world many conflicts are religious ones. It is purely my observation and I think a fair point. Did I make any reference to the middle east? You quoted Moses metaphoricaly illustrating that money is chief - I agree wholeheartedly. My lawyer status is irrelevant. As humans we are losing a core of comradeship, fellowship and care for those who are lonely or isolated. I have no view on religion. I try to see things as they are. If I have upset you I apologise. I meant no offense, I simply try to see the world as it is. It is not a very pleasant place at times, people of faith or no faith at all need to begin to try to make our own little corner of the world a little bit better. Alienation in old age I think is probably the worst - wherever in the world it happens. Growing old and perhaps having family spread far and wide makes older people more isolated unless their neighbours and friends check up on them. That is a summary of the way I see things in the world. |
