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New Burden of Disease study shows world’s people living longer but with more disability

posted at 29/12/2012 7:21 PM GMT on bmj.com
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/burden-of-disease-study-shows-a-world-living-longer-and-with-more-disability/2012/12/13/9d1e5278-4320-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story_1.html

In 1990, 631,000 people died from that childhood infection, which was the world’s 19th-leading cause of death. In 2010, only 125,000 people died from measles, which had fallen to the No. 62 cause.

“There have been very, very big payoffs in all the investments made to improve child survival,” said Alan D. Lopez, the dean of the school of population health at the University of Queensland in Australia, who with Murray led the project.

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posted at 30/12/2012 2:02 PM GMT on bmj.com
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There was a similiar article in NEJM recently.

This is from the one you quoted:
For every year of life expectancy added since 1990, about 91/2 months is time in good health. The rest is time in a diminished state — in pain, immobility, mental incapacity or medical support such as dialysis. For people who survive to age 50, the added time is “discounted” even further. For every added year they get, only seven months are healthy.

I think that´s not so bad altogether. However, I remember an old professor at uni who taught us epidemiology - not really thrilling in the 90ies, but he said "remember my words - all these illnesses you think are history now will be back in a few years". I am afraid he is right and it´s no good taking a nap on these laurels ( German for indulging in your success)...

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posted at 30/12/2012 11:01 PM GMT on bmj.com
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In Response to New Burden of Disease study shows world’s people living longer but with more disability:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/burden-of-disease-study-shows-a-world-living-longer-and-with-more-disability/2012/12/13/9d1e5278-4320-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story_1.html In 1990, 631,000 people died from that childhood infection, which was the world’s 19th-leading cause of death. In 2010, only 125,000 people died from measles, which had fallen to the No. 62 cause. “There have been very, very big payoffs in all the investments made to improve child survival,” said Alan D. Lopez, the dean of the school of population health at the University of Queensland in Australia, who with Murray led the project.
Posted by drrathore

As this was my alma mater. it must be true. 

We are heading for an age of an aging world with not enough young people to pay taxes or look after them. This is in evidence even in China. Our prime minister is trying to introduce a bill for a national disability support system to help the growing number of people with disabilities. A great concern for aging parents who with great devotion have looked after a child with a disability who will take over when they have died or are too infirm to be the carer. Dementia is also increasing for reasons unsure or I can't remember. 



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posted at 31/12/2012 7:46 AM GMT on bmj.com
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I have always said that what matters is not overall life expectancy but healthy life expectancy which, in the UK at least, is 6 or 7 years less. The lesson? If you want to enjoy retirement take it as soon as you can afford to. of course, if you just want to work till you drop carry on.

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In Response to Re: New Burden of Disease study shows world’s people living longer but with more disability:
I have always said that what matters is not overall life expectancy but healthy life expectancy which, in the UK at least, is 6 or 7 years less. The lesson? If you want to enjoy retirement take it as soon as you can afford to. of course, if you just want to work till you drop carry on.
Posted by skyesteve


There must be a way in-between. It has been shown that early retirement shortens what is left of your life-expectancy. It is certainly not a good idea just to aim at retirement, picturing the fab things you will be able to do then ( most people don´t ever). Working isn´t only a nuisance, it also gives you structure and sometimes even a purpose in life. There is a life before retirement, so I wouldn´t encourage early retirement ( here, r. age has just been raised to 67, which won´t work for most jobs of course), but try to adjust working conditions so that older people can still fulfill them, maybe not 8-10 hrs a day, but still.
Oh, and in China they have just made a law that children are obliged to visit theit parents often ( Often is not defined though, and I don´t know which sanctions would be the consequence if they don´t).

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posted at 31/12/2012 11:03 AM GMT on bmj.com
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The length of my life is of course of self interest to me.  It would be nice to live a long BUT HEALTHY life.  But what matters most is the 'width' of my life.  What am I doing with my life? Am I just waiting for something great to happen or am I living every second of it in a way that challenges, excites and brings satisfaction.  Do I live for myself alone or do I live for the people in my life? Or achieve a happy medium? Do I take challenges in a receptive way or seek immediate satisfaction for minimal effort.  Am I living a life where I only interact with consoles and get annoyed when life intervenes?

Taking some risk, the beauty of nature, solid friendships, using my brain, working hard and getting good nresults all make to give life meaning. 

Length of life is important but think of the 'width'.

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posted at 31/12/2012 11:10 AM GMT on bmj.com
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Carolin and Kirked - agree with you both. I try to live in the moment though I don't always succeed and O try to be and do good. I am not yet 50 but already I am satisfied with the life I have lived and continue to have. If Atrops cuts my thread tomorrow at I know I have done the best I could even if others judge that I could have been better or just different.

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In Response to Re: New Burden of Disease study shows world’s people living longer but with more disability : There must be a way in-between. It has been shown that early retirement shortens what is left of your life-expectancy. It is certainly not a good idea just to aim at retirement, picturing the fab things you will be able to do then ( most people don´t ever). Working isn´t only a nuisance, it also gives you structure and sometimes even a purpose in life. There is a life before retirement, so I wouldn´t encourage early retirement ( here, r. age has just been raised to 67, which won´t work for most jobs of course), but try to adjust working conditions so that older people can still fulfill them, maybe not 8-10 hrs a day, but still. Oh, and in China they have just made a law that children are obliged to visit theit parents often ( Often is not defined though, and I don´t know which sanctions would be the consequence if they don´t).
Posted by Carolin

I agree, Carolin. 

If work brings you satisfaction, contentment and new peaks to conquer which it does for me, well and good. I saw a TV programme on Sir David Attenborough who is 83. He is a fine example for all of us.

My late father worked diligently as a GP until 78 and had mastered six languages by then. He had width as do I and curiosity which is part of intellectual vigor. When you stop wondering, stop searching, looking up books or the computer for answers, when one stops wrestling with angels your life is but honeycomb without the honey. 

Early retirement means that things which would take a busy person half an hour take all day and a trip to the supermarket becomes another day fulfilled. 

I would rather die in the saddle rather than on the front porch in my rocking chair waiting for God. 

It all depends on our personal philosophy of this life. In my opinion more is less and less is more. 

Odysseus

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