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This article from the Guardian (June 2012) is fascinating. It concerns GP Dr Richard Scott a christian Doctor who apparently advised one of his patients that he might get better if he prayed. T
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Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?
posted at 17/8/2012 3:49 AM BST
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In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?: In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly? : Some of the rooms in our community hospital have a stunning uninterrupted view over the sea and rugged mountains and it's possible to watch herons and otters on the beach below. Our patients love these rooms and definitely seem to feel better for being in them such that we now openly talk about the "therapeutic view" and we're only half-joking. Here's the view: Posted by skyesteve You live on bonny isle. A land where a Hobbit would be happy. I would be healed here and if I died, it would be with a smile. |
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Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?
posted at 18/8/2012 11:10 AM BST
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In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?: There is a great deal of research in the USA that says that Prayer does help. I feel it does help, but I also know that here on BMJ I will be accused of Worshipping Sky Fairies, or invisible friends, the moment you express belief in a divine being, the Posters here accuse you of being Incompetent! So there you have it, my thoughts. DuaneF Posted by DuaneF Hi Duane, I think that you know well my previous thoughts on religious matters. However I have had reviewed my position to some degree.. I still did not hold religious views personally but think it would be more constructive of me not to knock peoples convictions, on the equal understanding that my own views can be expressed in a like manner. Every person has the right to find their own way in life in whatever way they feel works best for them. I will try to adhere to this approach. |
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Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?
posted at 19/8/2012 1:14 AM BST
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Hi Kirked, Yes certainly every person has rights to believe what they want, and in like manner you and whomever have every right to disbelieve. My point was that this was not the case always here on Doc to Doc. As for me, I believe what I want to. We are all free people, allowed to think. DuaneF In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?: In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly? : Hi Duane, I think that you know well my previous thoughts on religious matters. However I have had reviewed my position to some degree.. I still did not hold religious views personally but think it would be more constructive of me not to knock peoples convictions, on the equal understanding that my own views can be expressed in a like manner. Every person has the right to find their own way in life in whatever way they feel works best for them. I will try to adhere to this approach. Posted by kirked |
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Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?
posted at 19/8/2012 4:47 AM BST
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In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?: Hi Kirked, Yes certainly every person has rights to believe what they want, and in like manner you and whomever have every right to disbelieve. My point was that this was not the case always here on Doc to Doc. As for me, I believe what I want to. We are all free people, allowed to think. DuaneF In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly? : Posted by DuaneF Well said, Duane although I do note that on your coins it says "In God we trust" whereas on our coat of arms we have a kangaroo and an emu which we eat occasionally and kill on the roads quite a bit. No kangaroo or emu has ever been other than secular or has the faintest notion of your belief system. Such a motto in Australia would produce diverse responses. Christianity is arguably in decline and the fastest growing religion is Hinduism as all our taxi drivers (mainly Sikhs not Hindus) come from the Punjab and as result the resultant motto would be in Australia "In gods we trust" which includes the god of the surf, sun, and beer as we can be a degenerate mob as well as intellectual. But I suppose that would fit with the next bit on your coins "e pluribus unum"; takes all kinds to make a nation and that is its strength...... as well as its weakness? P.S. It is interesting how you motto combines English and Latin. Few do. |
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Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?
posted at 19/8/2012 2:03 PM BST
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I'm glad that so much religious freedom has broken out here! Of course, the liberal agnostic or atheist should not seek to proselytise their lack of faith, or deny the wish of others to worship. But in the original situation, the religionists are seeking, as so often, to impose their beliefs on others. In a hopeless clinical situation, most intensivists will recommend that active treatment is withdrawn, in the knowledge that death will follow. This has good clinical and ethical support, in not giving useless treatment and not prolonging the patient's suffering. But it also has a wider effect, in that to allow a hopeless patient to die, that bed becomes available for another patient, whose treatment may be more hopeful. What doctor is not familiar with critically ill patients, or those facing major surgery who will require post-op,. critical care, for whom no ICU/HDU bed is available at the right time? Transfer of the critically ill can get them to a bed, but at some cost in risks and morbidity, and operations are always postponed if there is no bed, wasting theatre time. It's not the right time to raise this aspect with anyone whose loved one is so desperately ill that treatment should be withdrawn - it looks selfish, especially if there are 'merely' pre-op. patients waiting, but is it not selfish to deny those patients their opportunity when the relative has already used up every single one of theirs? John |
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Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?
posted at 20/8/2012 8:24 PM BST
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It is all about mental wellbeing and I think prayer if nothing else helps people to have a more positive wellbeing (right up untill the point where that one prayer may not get through) but I think whther you believe or not- prayer has worked miracles in the past. |
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Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?
posted at 20/8/2012 11:50 PM BST
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Yes Odysseus our coins say that, and as for Christianity being in decline, I could care less about being in a popularity contest, hence my Species, MAN! Not Sheep! I am no follower!. DuaneF In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?: In Response to Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly? : Well said, Duane although I do note that on your coins it says " In God we trust " whereas on our coat of arms we have a kangaroo and an emu which we eat occasionally and kill on the roads quite a bit. No kangaroo or emu has ever been other than secular or has the faintest notion of your belief system. Such a motto in Australia would produce diverse responses. Christianity is arguably in decline and the fastest growing religion is Hinduism as all our taxi drivers (mainly Sikhs not Hindus) come from the Punjab and as result the resultant motto would be in Australia "In gods we trust" which includes the god of the surf, sun, and beer as we can be a degenerate mob as well as intellectual. But I suppose that would fit with the next bit on your coins " e pluribus unum "; takes all kinds to make a nation and that is its strength...... as well as its weakness? P.S. It is interesting how you motto combines English and Latin. Few do. Posted by Odysseus |
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Re: GP advised patient to pray/Does prayer help you get better more quickly?
posted at 21/8/2012 9:46 PM BST
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I agree that pray is helpful. but the the supject is so larg. there are many rsearches support this method for treatment and prevention. you can read this book. The Genie in Your Genes MD Mohsen
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