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Tips on how to survive NHS commissioning - for the next doc2doc ebook - add yours here

posted at 4/5/2011 5:51 PM BST on bmj.com
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Dear doc2docers

We have another ebook in the pipelines (joke book on its way, we promise).

The new one will be for doctors in England on how to survive NHS commissioning.
If you are a GP with tips or questions on any aspect of commissioning, we'd love to hear from you on this thread.

Thanks
Sabreena

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posted at 6/5/2011 5:12 PM BST on bmj.com
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And please add tips from consultants on how they and their services may survive..

I've already had questions about Pre-Operative Assessment Clinics - Why? Do the POA at the surgery, more convenient for our pts! Our GP records already include BP and weight, and we know what they are taking - what more do you want?

That 'my' clinic nurses picked up four critical aortic stenoses last month should not be a source of pride - clumping happens - but it is.

John

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posted at 6/5/2011 5:56 PM BST on bmj.com
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Yes please, all secondary care tips and questions also welcome in the book

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posted at 11/5/2011 1:46 PM BST on bmj.com
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As a hospital SpR, I worry about whether commissioning means hospitals will become poorer and care more disjointed. Will it mean patients go to one hospital to see a cardiologist but another to see a gastroenterologist? Will it make inter-specialty referrals more difficult? I know we're supposed to go through GPs when we do this now but sometimes we don't and just do it ourselves - it's quicker that way.

· What training, if any, do hospital docs need on GP commissioning?

· Why waste all that money that was put into PCTs in the first place? Why change a system that's working?

· How do they know this will work?

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posted at 19/5/2011 7:52 PM BST on bmj.com
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As a hospital SHO many may think that commissioning is a topic which needn’t concern me. I’m not a GP. I don’t handle the budgets, choose providers or make referrals. This is supported by the fact there has been little literature directed to junior NHS staff. But looking deeper at the issue there are a number of issues which may affect my training, practice and career.

 

Over the years I’ve heard many complaints that the NHS is run by too many non-clinical managers, rotas being dictated from Europe by people who don’t have to work them and funding of new treatments being withheld on cost basis by those who don’t understand their importance. Surely Commissioning is a step forward, empowering doctors. GPs will have more say about which medications should be funded and where funds should be spent – this can only be a good thing, cant it?

 

Within the hospital I must gain the necessary experience to one day be the consultant putting forward the name of my establishment as worthy of the GP’s budget. But what if the Commissioning GPs choose to contract to private healthcare providers instead.  Will I lose out of the experience I need, or will the Deanery send me to greener pastures? Withdrawing the trainees, the workhorses of the modern NHS hospital will affect efficiency and may lead to even less work being referred by the GPs, and the cycle continues. Closure of hospitals unable to provide value for money may leave juniors without training posts and patients travelling further for their care.  

 

What about cross-team referrals? At present, if a patient of mine should require non-urgent input from another speciality, I recommend the GP refer to suggested colleague, whose office is 20 yards down the corridor from mine. That way funding for the next treatment is from the GP, not my department. Will this situation continue with the new Commissioning system – I would expect so.

 

Saving money by cutting out management, we are promised will save vital funds for clinical priorities. “No redundancies for nursing staff” we are promised, but what about those they expect to lead this revolution, the future GPs and hospital consultants. I understand the BMA are still fighting our corner.

 

I hope that commissioning will be the “breath of fresh air” that the NHS needs to keep it strong for the next 60 years, but I fear that rushed through and without all parties on side it may widen the rift between primary and secondary care. And where do I stand as a junior? The same place as usual, with no say in the matter and left to weather whatever my seniors decide is right!

Re: Tips on how to survive NHS commissioning - for the next doc2doc ebook - add yours here

posted at 20/5/2011 12:54 PM BST on bmj.com
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My first tip is to take a long view.  The forthcoming method of commissioning (whatever the final plan) will be the latest in a long line of experiments.  Hopefully, this latest reform will make things better but the worry is that it will backfire by lowering standards of care and pushing up costs.  Those of us who practice medicine are aware that experimental treatments based on new hypotheses cannot be relied upon to succeed.  However, a reform provides an opportunity for the latest government’s new brooms to brush out the bureaucracy of previous governments.  So my second tip is to get used to reforms.

 

The underlying problem is that health care is a perverse market – the best customers are those who cannot pay.  No end of messing about with Soviet style-targets or macho competition will change this.  This means that the care of the very ill, elderly, young and unemployed has to be paid from taxation.  It is the onerous responsibility of elected politicians to decide on behalf of a potentially vengeful press and electorate what should be paid for.  Creating PCTs or GP Commissioning allows some of this responsibility to be delegated.

 

The important thing is to make sure that after any ‘reform’, patients get looked after properly.  One practical tip for maintaining quality of care and communication is to make sure that all tests, treatments and follow up appointments are put in writing and followed (in brackets) by the identifying number of the possible diagnostic indication.  Also, each such (numbered) diagnosis is followed in brackets by the evidence so far that includes how it presented, was confirmed, and is being monitored.  This is what I do and teach.  This written explanation can be given to the patient and passed on to the next doctor (in the primary, secondary or private sectors) to provide continuity, integration and coordination of care and to avoid duplication or rushed thoughtlessness.

 

If everyone did this, it would make things easier for us all and safeguard patients (and doctors).  This would be a cheap, cost saving and sensible reform that improves quality of care, information and training.  However, it does require organisational support if it is to be done routinely and by everyone.  So my last tip is to keep asking politely for any ‘competition’ to be based on ‘quality of care and communication’.

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