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Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 14/1/2012 1:53 AM GMT on bmj.com
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On the holidays a lot of students in my year worked as orderlies or nursing aids. I did this at the end of my first and second year. It was a epiphany. I wrote this one day then. I apologise for my verse. It is imperfect but the feelings expressed therein are written in gold leaf. 

Christmas Day Ward C3, Orthopaedic,

The Chermside Chest Hospital.

 

This was written Christmas 1970, while I was working in a very large orthopaedic ward at Chermside Hospital as a male orderly at the end of my first year of my medical degree. I had only left the Brisbane Grammar School the year before and I had just turned 19 years of age. It was my first and shocking experience of the reality of life, human suffering, and of the self-induced misfortune of many my own age who had combined alcohol and driving with disastrous consequences.  I was never the same again after two months working in that ward. I had lost my innocence. I worked another Christmas in the same hospital (now the Prince Charles Hospital) in a cardiac medical ward where I was faced with death on a daily basis.

 


A quick-silver dew weighs heavy on the grass

As the morning shift comes on.

The summer air is steamy hot

Hazy is the torpid Brisbane sun.

 

The ward’s monotonous corridor,

Blushes with red balloons.

Beds festooned,

Coloured paper streamers

And silver stars,

Hang from every door.

 

Drowsy patients wake.

Patchwork stockings

Kind thoughts

And little things

Hang about their heads.

 

The man with cancer

Cries for help,

Sobs of pain,

His very last sad Christmas

We’ll be glad when he is dead

 

The same routine as usual

Nothing can change this play,

Few think of a suffering Jesus,

For today is Christmas Day

 

Some old ones wake to find

The rising of the summer sun.

Some remember a youthful Christmas

When life was hard,

…But fun.

.

 

The gnarled, old worn-out stockman

Sucks like a babe,
On an uncracked nut,

Then sinks in demented dreams;

….Wet again.

Another fumbles with her stocking

-Her arthritic hands won’t bend.

 

There’s a party round the Tree,

In the television room.

Paraplegics and amputees;

Young men,

Plastered legs and chests.

The young girl,

The broken neck

-her bed rolls in as well

The party starts

But never starts

A celebration with no end.

 

Room One’s the place;

Young men waylaid by

 Fate and foolishness

-their life stands still.

Old beyond their years,

They watch the world go by.

 

The handsome young Italian,

Knees stiff, legs straight

Opens the “champagne”,

A “lucky” quad who can wheel his chair

Pours drinks.

Cheers, Merry Christmas,

Happy New Year!

 

They reminisce

The good old days,

 -Before…..

One in plaster;

A sweat-suit of armour

He can’t sit up.

…Asks for a plastic straw

It’s hot inside his tortoise shell,

And can’t escape the smell.

 

The young boy in the corner

 Just reached his nineteenth year

Memory’s pain

When he sees his body now

His paralysed, frail body,

His amputated leg,

His once-strong muscles wasted,

The sores he’s got in bed.

He jerks his hand across the sheets

Quadriplegic fingers trailing like a broom

To dust the fruit-cake crumbs away

And to scratch his greasy, itchy head.

 

He dreams of gleaming motor bikes

 .. He’ll never ride again.

One day he’ll have a wheel chair

Then silent cries within his lonely soul..

It echoes through his private hell.

And yet he never grumbles

Never cries aloud,

Never envies anyone

He just smiles and says he’s well.

 

They all start laughing,

It makes the time go fast.

Comradeship soothes the sorrows;

Alcohol keeps them sane.

 

Christmas C3,

Much like last year’s,

An old nurse tells me,

Misery, hard work,

And heavy wheel-chair showers.

 

I collapse on my bed at three.

Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 28/2/2012 12:05 PM GMT on bmj.com
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what do you think the uni's would call as a cut off age??  Is there a cut off age?? Does ageism affect medical students ?? I would be a mature student with dependants so obviously my questions are more about funding, grants and course fees!!  Any advice would be gratefully received.Laughing

Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 28/2/2012 1:15 PM GMT on bmj.com
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I'll all for adult education but given how much the givernmunt subsidises a place at med school it should be considered how many years of practice a mature student would have between graduation and retirement!

Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 28/2/2012 1:57 PM GMT on bmj.com
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Don't forget that in the end of the day you will have to speak to and deal with real people with real problems that almost never fit a textbook profile.
And that one bit of the textbook you didn't bother learning because they won't ask about it in the exam anyway will be the very piece of information you need at some crucial point in the future.
Personally, I am not sure I want a doctor who thinks a pass mark of 50% is good enough!

Re:What I wish I knew before applying to medical school

posted at 28/2/2012 2:37 PM GMT on bmj.com
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Pace Your Studying,
Practice Clinical Skills Regularly,
Ignore the Rush and Take Your Time,
Learn How You Learn Best,
Take Advantage of Everything Being a Medical Student has to Offer,
Summer Plans

 

Linda

Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 28/2/2012 2:45 PM GMT on bmj.com
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hi, i'm also in year 12. Is it useful to do the extended project as a way of 'standing out'. Also are the summer schools useful to go to?

Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 28/2/2012 9:51 PM GMT on bmj.com
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View work experience as an opportunity to genuinely evaluate medicine as a career, not simply one to pad your personal statement.

Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 28/2/2012 10:01 PM GMT on bmj.com
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In Response to Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...:
what do you think the uni's would call as a cut off age??  Is there a cut off age?? Does ageism affect medical students ?? I would be a mature student with dependants so obviously my questions are more about funding, grants and course fees!!  Any advice would be gratefully received.
Posted by richy.tomo


Age doesn't actually make much of a difference. There is no official cut-off age (that would be illegal). On my course [Notts GEM] there's a fair few people in mid-late 30s and at least four over 40. There are a fair few with dependants as well. Age = experience in my opinion and I am so glad I got onto my course at 25 rather than 18.

There is help with childcare costs from SFE, but I don't have children myself so don't know much about this area (direct.gov.uk/studentfinance has some information about funding).

Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 18/4/2012 3:12 PM BST on bmj.com
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1.Only apply if you really want to be a doctor - I know this sounds obvious but there are people who think that medicine sounds like a good career, they have done well in exams and they like science so therefore they should apply. Of course all these are important factors but really you need to be sure that you don't just like chemistry etc but want to work with patients and do all the paper work and studying that goes with it.

2. Start early - I decided that I wanted to be a doctor when I was pretty young but that's not to say that you need to know from the age of 5. It is useful to start gaining the relavent experience as early as possible and not once you  can be sure that you have the right exam results (Scottish system). Commit yourself and the worse that can happen is that you don't get the grades and have to settle for another path but you'll kick yoursekf if you don't get in because you just started trying in 6th year - it doesn't work!

3. Interviews are scary and can be nerve racking but you have to prepare. There are certain questions that they are likely to ask e.g. why do you want to be a doctor, tell us about your work experience. You can slightly prepare these answers as long as it doesn't sound rehearsed. Be truthful don't say you saw such and such procedure unless you did -they will probe further.

4. Medical schools aren't looking for robots they need people who can talk to patients and show empathy so don't act mechanically -if you passionately believe in something show them. Work experience and volunteering aren't just about adding to the UCAS form they develop you as a person hopefully giving you important life skills that other people your age have not gained - think of them in this way.

5. Work experience is difficult to get especially in a GPs so ask anyone you know with even a vague connection to the NHS - it is one of the biggest employers so you're bound to know someone.

 

Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...

posted at 20/4/2012 2:45 PM BST on bmj.com
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In Response to Re: What I wish I knew before applying to medical school...:
Hi, l'm in yr12. l would like to know how you went about finding the right work experience. l'm new to this country and not yet very familiar with the system.
Posted by FaithMazani



Barts and the London offer a whole load of placements on this page, have a look. Otherwise just e-mail around, try and use any family connections you have. Volunteering is good as well, supposedly, try doing things like portering etc.
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