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Calling all medical students and junior doctors!! The news of the 48 hour working week for junior doctors has got me thinking - am I really that happy that when I qualify I will officially only be ab
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 19/6/2012 3:11 AM BST
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In Response to 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??: I am working accident and emergency departnement in wales, i was told by trust during recruitment process that we will be working 40 hours per week , once i joined the trust things are different on ground. Trust is asking us to work 48 hours on average / week , in some weeks i am working around 70-80hrs , and doing around 14 night shifts in a month , and gets only 1 weekend off in a month . it has made my life asocial , i will call this as a asocial , pathetic duty roster , i hope it should be discouraged to put such duties coz its an injustice to junior doctor , its affecting our social and professional life . |
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 19/6/2012 6:04 AM BST
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I sometimes work 60 hour weeks or more... DuaneF In Response to 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??: Calling all medical students and junior doctors!! The news of the 48 hour working week for junior doctors has got me thinking - am I really that happy that when I qualify I will officially only be able to work this many hours? I'm sure many of you are outraged - of course we shouldn't have to work more than that! But I guess I feel differently. On the one hand, my life outside medicine will be better but on the other, when I joined medical school it was with the knowledge that I would have to work incredibly long hours in my first few years. I am worried that I won't be half the doctor I would have been a few years ago purely due to a lack of time spent on the wards. It needed to change - the hours doctors worked in the past were too much - but have we gone too far? Posted by Emily |
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 19/6/2012 7:08 AM BST
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Id love to work only 48 hours a week. I'm an FY1 and my working week often exceeds 60 hours and occasionally 82 hours in 7 days in a row. In last week I worked 78 hours based on my rota, not to mention time spent outside of this getting off late to work.
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 19/6/2012 3:47 PM BST
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In Response to 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??: Calling all medical students and junior doctors!! The news of the 48 hour working week for junior doctors has got me thinking - am I really that happy that when I qualify I will officially only be able to work this many hours? I'm sure many of you are outraged - of course we shouldn't have to work more than that! But I guess I feel differently. On the one hand, my life outside medicine will be better but on the other, when I joined medical school it was with the knowledge that I would have to work incredibly long hours in my first few years. I am worried that I won't be half the doctor I would have been a few years ago purely due to a lack of time spent on the wards. It needed to change - the hours doctors worked in the past were too much - but have we gone too far? Posted by Emily It is not the quantity of time but the quality and breath of training that matters. Doing needless paperwork for hours on end, do not necessarily make you a good doctor. |
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 19/6/2012 3:54 PM BST
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In Response to Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??: I sometimes work 60 hour weeks or more... DuaneF In Response to 48 hour week - is anyone else worried?? : Posted by DuaneF Duane F, what sort of work do you do?. |
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 19/6/2012 7:49 PM BST
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We are doctors, humans with family and friends and hobbies, we are not martyrs. Most European doctors work 48 hours per week or less, and their standard of healthcare is often very good. Less is more. Who wants to fly in a plane with a tired pilot? Who wants to see a tired doctor? 48 hours is more than enough, time to go home. |
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 25/6/2012 5:12 AM BST
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The root of problem seems to be the status of doctors all over the world. The main point is quality and not quantity. Measuring quality of work by quantity of hours is a grave mistake. It has to do with very simplistic capitalistic thinking. |
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 29/6/2012 7:35 PM BST
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Greetings Happy, I am Prior Law Enforcement, 32 years, and at Present I am a CBRN Consultant, Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear Defense & Mitigation Consultant. I specialize in Radiological Domestic reparedness, Biological &Toxicological Threat assesment, etc. I do everything from Emergency Management Planning, to Air Toxicology Dispersion Modeling, and Chem-Bio Decon and Mitigation training and Eval. DuaneF In Response to Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??: In Response to Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried?? : Duane F, what sort of work do you do?. Posted by Happy |
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Re: 48 hour week - is anyone else worried??
posted at 30/6/2012 9:06 AM BST
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I have never understood why it was necessary for Junior Doctors to work such excessive hours. The medical profession should know better, no-one performs at their best in any job when they have been on duty for several days at a time. Senior Consultants seem to say 'well I had to do the long hours when I was a Junior Doctor so young Doctors today must do the same'. That is no rationale for anything. A Pilot would never be allowed to fly a jumbo jet if he had already been working for 48 hours - it would be asking for trouble. I agree with those that say 'it is the quality of the hours that count not the quantity. The Nursing profession have 'handover' which allows Nursing to be practiced in shifts - why can't Doctors do the same. It seems illogical to me to think that unless a Doctor works 70 hours a week he will not get the experience they need. However many hours a young Doctor may work it is inevitable that he will be exposed to some conditions and not others. When will the senior Doctors learn? |
