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Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
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Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
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Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
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Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
posted at 26/6/2011 5:39 PM BST
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In Response to Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.: Hi Yoram You are right; I find the clinical criteria for RA , OA and SLE more useful than these markers. This patient had obviously inflammed serous membranes of these joints. He is responding well. Do you find such patietns with normal ESR and normal CRP? I am greatly curious. Many a times I am certain that I will get these abnormal based upon history but these turn out to be normal; leaving at the end of my wits! Posted by ranasaleem52 Patients with spondyloarthropathies, such as PsA, can have normal inflammatory markers even with florid clinical inflammation present. Examination and experience should alert you to the possibility of PsA or other spondyloarthropathy. |
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Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
posted at 26/6/2011 9:56 PM BST
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Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
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Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
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Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
posted at 27/6/2011 12:40 PM BST
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It’s a common knowledge that ESR,CRP are nonspecific indicators of inflammation, not useful as screening tests for rheumatic diseases, and cannot differentiate one disease from another. Repeated studies of workup for polyarticular complaints and rheumatoid disease demonstrate many variable factors (e.g. age, gender, pregnancy, comorbid diseases, etc.) associated with CRP/ESR discordance. In many studies ESR and CRP values were modestly correlated with each other and they were weakly correlated with disease activity measures. These data suggest that another look at the role of ESR and CRP as markers of inflammation in RA patients seen in routine care may be in order. Some studies state that it is not necessary to obtain both ESR and CRP measures for clinical disease activity assessment in clinical trials of RA. Neither test adds significantly to clinical measures of disease activity including joint counts and global assessments. Where available, the CRP alone may be preferred for disease activity assessment as a simple, validated, reproducible, non age-dependent test. In office practice, test selection is generally guided by whether the clinical assessment suggests inflammatory or noninflammatory disease. One inquires into the characteristic hallmarks of inflammation: redness, warmth, soft-tissue swelling, and tenderness. If such symptoms are localized to and encompass an entire joint, one has excellent presumptive evidence for synovitis and an inflammatory process. A good history and clues on physical examination increase the “pretest probability” by asking questions that support the diagnosis of inflammatory arthropathy or systemic rheumatic disease. In general, although ESR / CRP can be helpful to monitor certain patients, laboratory measures cannot serve as a gold standard for diagnosis and management in all individual patients with RA or any rheumatic disease. I suppose, we (and our patients’ as well) would benefit from an improved understanding of the limitations of laboratory tests in diagnosis and management of patients with rheumatologic disorders. |
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Re: Investigations for rheumatoligical disorders, especially connective tissue disorders.
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